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Show Us Your Dawn Renders!
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Dreamer
Dream Weaver Designs
Yeah I do, adds a bit more "story" to what would otherwise be just a character study.
Or at least that was what I was trying for lol
Darn, I have looked everywhere, and I couldn't find doggy. It must be really hard to see. Where is it?
This is Dawn rendered in Poser with Superfly.
@Ken1171 Dawn's skin is amazing in Superfly. I still struggle to get great skin for v4 in Superfly. She always turns out ebony. Are you using Snarly's script?[/QUOTE]
I like making my own skin shaders nowadays, because scripts tend to over-complicate them, making it tough to fine tune them the way I like in my renders. The major reason is that PBR rendering looks better with simple shaders, while FF used to require a lot of emulations and faking stuff to look good. That means FF shaders are usually larger and more complicated, and this plays against us with Cycles, I-ray, and Octane. All of these PBR renderers offer a principled "super root" shader, making materials creation much simpler to handle. We no longer need the tons of FF shaders to emulate Fresnel, ambient occlusion, and faking SSS. A single "Physical Surface" takes care of all that automatically, so we only have to attach the texture maps to it. Thanks to Poser's RSR shader integration with Cycles, even a simple "Poser Surface" with basic texture maps will look good in SF, as long as we avoid fake channels like "alternate diffuse" and "alternate specular", because PBR doesn't need to fake anything.
Having that said, when I look at the large and complicated shaders created by Snarly's script, I think that's more suitable for Firefly than for SF. By removing all the clutter and keeping it simple, I had better results with PBR rendering in my personal experience. It renders faster, looks better, and becomes easier to tweak. That's how I did it with the render above, where I have used the standard Poser Surface root with only textures plugged in, and no SSS. The current Cycles version in Poser is still the old one that couldn't clean up noise very well, especially when we use SSS. Nowadays versions of Octane, Cycles and I-ray use advanced AI-Denoiser, but the Poser version is stuck in the past with no updates. This is why I avoid SSS when rendering with SF unless I am desperate.
Example of super-simple shader for body skin with only texture maps to render in SF. With PBR, simpler is better. The catch is to fine tune the parameters to look as you want, and remember materials depend on the lighting to produce good results. In this render I have used standard 3-point (key, fill and rim) lights, all default spotlights. Some people claim it only works indoors, but here I have used it outdoors and it works for me. ^^
I like making my own skin shaders nowadays, because scripts tend to over-complicate them, making it tough to fine tune them the way I like in my renders. The major reason is that PBR rendering looks better with simple shaders, while FF used to require a lot of emulations and faking stuff to look good. That means FF shaders are usually larger and more complicated, and this plays against us with Cycles, I-ray, and Octane. All of these PBR renderers offer a principled "super root" shader, making materials creation much simpler to handle. We no longer need the tons of FF shaders to emulate Fresnel, ambient occlusion, and faking SSS. A single "Physical Surface" takes care of all that automatically, so we only have to attach the texture maps to it. Thanks to Poser's RSR shader integration with Cycles, even a simple "Poser Surface" with basic texture maps will look good in SF, as long as we avoid fake channels like "alternate diffuse" and "alternate specular", because PBR doesn't need to fake anything.
Having that said, when I look at the large and complicated shaders created by Snarly's script, I think that's more suitable for Firefly than for SF. By removing all the clutter and keeping it simple, I had better results with PBR rendering in my personal experience. It renders faster, looks better, and becomes easier to tweak. That's how I did it with the render above, where I have used the standard Poser Surface root with only textures plugged in, and no SSS. The current Cycles version in Poser is still the old one that couldn't clean up noise very well, especially when we use SSS. Nowadays versions of Octane, Cycles and I-ray use advanced AI-Denoiser, but the Poser version is stuck in the past with no updates. This is why I avoid SSS when rendering with SF unless I am desperate.
Example of super-simple shader for body skin with only texture maps to render in SF. With PBR, simpler is better. The catch is to fine tune the parameters to look as you want, and remember materials depend on the lighting to produce good results. In this render I have used standard 3-point (key, fill and rim) lights, all default spotlights. Some people claim it only works indoors, but here I have used it outdoors and it works for me. ^^
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Me195
Extraordinary
The Fallen
Shiora for Dawn - A Tempesta3d Creation at HiveWire 3D
Body Type-5 for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Body Type-2 for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Perfect Pelvis for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Flower Fairy Outfit - A Mada Creation or Flower Fairy Outfit - A Mada Creation
Flower Fairy Wings - A Mada Creation or Flower Fairy Wings - A Mada Creation
A Lisa's Botanicals Creation - The Heart of the Matter
Blair for V4 borrowed by Dawn, Maraki for Dawn, Oot Sports wear for Dawn, Wet Hair for V4 LaFemme and Dawn, LaFemme, Pixie outfit, grass patches, and hair by Ali are all found at renderosity
Luker Demon found at Freedom Of Art
Rendered in Superfly
Shiora for Dawn - A Tempesta3d Creation at HiveWire 3D
Body Type-5 for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Body Type-2 for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Perfect Pelvis for Dawn - A Ken1171 Creation at HiveWire 3D
Flower Fairy Outfit - A Mada Creation or Flower Fairy Outfit - A Mada Creation
Flower Fairy Wings - A Mada Creation or Flower Fairy Wings - A Mada Creation
A Lisa's Botanicals Creation - The Heart of the Matter
Blair for V4 borrowed by Dawn, Maraki for Dawn, Oot Sports wear for Dawn, Wet Hair for V4 LaFemme and Dawn, LaFemme, Pixie outfit, grass patches, and hair by Ali are all found at renderosity
Luker Demon found at Freedom Of Art
Rendered in Superfly
Me195
Extraordinary
It could be, or the other three could be in trouble.
Hmmmm, true, as she could be the one in control of those "evil" forces.
Me195
Extraordinary
Indeed, It's up to the viewers imagination. Some see her as in trouble, and some see her as the trouble maker. One person even saw the birth of a leprechaun because of the irish folklore of a leprechaun being the offspring of a fallen fairy and an evil spirit. I hadn't even considered that last one when making it. I love to see people's interpretation of intentionally ambiguous art. People are very creative.Hmmmm, true, as she could be the one in control of those "evil" forces.
