I played with the Shetland and dialed in the Arab morph and now the Sheltie looks like a Welsh Mountain Pony
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Actually Dave had done a version of the bridle that would work very well for English tack so I told him to hang on to it for future. And it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to rework the classic saddle to a dressage and jump saddle. The one thing I am really against is being involved with a model that incorporates a flash or grackle noseband as that is a huge pet peeve of mine as a long time horse owner/rider/trainer. Any noseband that forces the mouth closed is anathema to me as a classical rider/trainer. I am actively involved in the fight to get drop, crank and flash nosebands, as well as the new Micklem bridles disallowed from USDF and FEI competition. While not a big fan of the grackle I prefer to see it over a lot of worse options for 3 day cross country. A regular cavesson noseband is fine as it is really meant for looks only/is not meant to be tight/two fingers should easily fit under a fastened cavesson noseband.
Laurie (sorry about the rant but I do feel very strongly about it
Nope...I wasn't really into horses as a child so never got the book or watched the movie. This is going to probably nag at me for some time but that's okay it will come to me eventually.
Lovely render Rae...
Great render Rae. They sure look like they're enjoying themselves.I played with the Shetland and dialed in the Arab morph and now the Sheltie looks like a Welsh Mountain Pony
Ohhhh, I would like anything for Dressage.
Hi Laurie, I haven't been near the Dressage/Show circuit for nearly 30 years (or unfortunately horses in general), but when I was doing ODEs and shows even the Grackle/Flash nosebands were supposed to be able to put 2 fingers between the band and the horse (of course you'd get some that did it tight still), at shows some of the judges would put their fingers in to check. Obviously this has changed over the years (or Aus had different rules back then)
Hey Rae- sorry about the rant! Unfortunately the newer trend at least in the US is to use flash/drop/crank nosebands to basically hide the fact that the horse really isn't "submissive to the bit". At least in the US it has become nearly impossible to buy a dressage bridle without one. While not a fan, I can see them being used in training but I totally disagree with them being allowed in competition. I have several friends who actually think they are required/are ignorant of the actual rules. And that makes me very sad. Yes they can be used loosely but the trend in too many places these days is to crank them as tight as possible to hide the fact that their horse really isn't accepting the bit/too cranked in the neck/behind the bit and I don't see the ring stewards at shows checking them like they should/used to.
God I go through a whole box of kleenex every time I watch that movie. My first horse/Morgan came from the Morgan show world and all the atrocities practiced there....took a long time to help her get over so much of what they did to her. My latest guy it has taken three years to get him over his early training where they used a tight flash noseband in combination with draw reins...When I first got him, I couldn't even try to touch his mouth without him freaking out. I restarted him in a rope halter.
Thats sad Laurie. Dressage at least at pony club level only allowed a snaffle bit and plain (Cavesson) noseband (and that was just for looks), and a "bit & bidoon" for higher levels. The other nosebands were only for show jumping or cross-country. Drop-nose was quite common at pony club for ponies (I guess to help the younger ones) and like I said they had to have at least 1 finger gap (the stewards checked at the start of the day). They were pretty strict on what bits were allowed. Young people were not allowed to use a curb bit at all, only certain snaffles, and only certain grades could you the harsher bits).
Yep it is- I started competing almost 30 years ago in dressage, and combined training-as we call it in the US- and while there were other issues at the time, the rules about bits/bridles/checking the horse for stress were better regulated/checked at shows, and there seemed to be more interest/"reward" in having a "happy"/soft horse than now. Now it is all about competition and money, even at a lot of the lower levels. Rolkur is only one example of the sort of abuse that goes on now at ALL levels. I haven't competed myself since 2006 in dressage or CT but when I did last, my Juanita did very well (always placed 1-3) because she showed very well how content she was in her work with no "gadgets", and I often got wonderful comments from the judges about how I was working with and training her so classically and how refreshing that was for them to see. Actually as Nuno Oliviera advised back in the day, I am trying to impress my horse, not other people, as much as I can. That is always my goal.
Wow, I am so far behind on this thread. Just wonderful renders, everyone! Really nice to see all the different styles on these.
Laurie, I hear you about the competitions. It's one of the reasons I never bothered to get into competing. I saw people who did, and I saw a lot of what went on around it, and I just couldn't in good conscience, allow myself to do anything that would support the kind of garbage that I was seeing being done to these animals. I have a bad habit of getting very, very angry when I see abuse of any creature, any animal, any person... does not matter who or what it is. So I have made it a point to have absolutely nothing to do with any of the competition arenas. I don't trust myself to behave. I'd end up getting escorted out in handcuffs.
Laurie, I hear you about the competitions. It's one of the reasons I never bothered to get into competing. I saw people who did, and I saw a lot of what went on around it, and I just couldn't in good conscience, allow myself to do anything that would support the kind of garbage that I was seeing being done to these animals. I have a bad habit of getting very, very angry when I see abuse of any creature, any animal, any person... does not matter who or what it is. So I have made it a point to have absolutely nothing to do with any of the competition arenas. I don't trust myself to behave. I'd end up getting escorted out in handcuffs.
@Rae134 You do have a point there, but I suppose it's the closest thing to the actual English tack. BTW those photos make me have a strange urge to play polo !! LOL
Give me a good cutter any day over a show pony. That's all about teamwork and the horses do seem to relish it once they catch on to what it's all about, of course, a horse with a decent amount of cow sense is worth it's weight in gold.
Give me a good cutter any day over a show pony. That's all about teamwork and the horses do seem to relish it once they catch on to what it's all about, of course, a horse with a decent amount of cow sense is worth it's weight in gold.
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I think that's why I had such fun at pony club, we got to try just about everything. While we didn't have a go at real polo we did have a day of polo cross (kinda like la-cross on horseback). Look up "Tent Pegging" we got to do that at a horse camp, I doubt they'd let kids full out gallop these days with what is basically a spear we got to do alot of old military type exercises.
Funniest thing was my 17hh ex-racer trying to cut, god that was fun and he did a really great job for one that hadn't even seen a cow and his height (lucky for him even despite his height he was built a little more like a quarter horse than a typical TB).
When I got him all I could do was trot because as soon as you asked for a canter he went straight into a gallop. I did a dressage class with Di Jenkins (an Australian Olympic Team dressage rider), she said he was a typical red head, bad tempered because he just wanted his own way. She asked for a canter and I told her I really hadn't done that with him and she said just make him go in smaller and smaller circles until he was just cantering. I think the circles were so small it was almost a pirouette but I got him going really good at the end and he could jump like a bird. (I was also lucky enough to be instructed quite a few times by Andrew Hoy, another Aussie Olympic rider who is still competing in the Olympics).
we got to do alot of old military type exercises.Funniest thing was my 17hh ex-racer trying to cut, god that was fun and he did a really great job for one that hadn't even seen a cow and his height (lucky for him even despite his height he was built a little more like a quarter horse than a typical TB).
When I got him all I could do was trot because as soon as you asked for a canter he went straight into a gallop. I did a dressage class with Di Jenkins (an Australian Olympic Team dressage rider), she said he was a typical red head, bad tempered because he just wanted his own way. She asked for a canter and I told her I really hadn't done that with him and she said just make him go in smaller and smaller circles until he was just cantering. I think the circles were so small it was almost a pirouette
but I got him going really good at the end and he could jump like a bird. (I was also lucky enough to be instructed quite a few times by Andrew Hoy, another Aussie Olympic rider who is still competing in the Olympics).
Oh, I'm a fan of Nacho Figueras !! He is from Argentina and plays for the Black Watch.
I have never actually played polo, but it always seemed like fun!! I have run rings and did a little barrel racing, reining, and of course cutting horses. Living on a farm it's just one of those things! The military drill teams are pretty big in Texas they usually have a mini show with flags before the county fair opens and again when the rodeos come to town oh and team driving which is kind of fun to watch. There is a race track not too far from where my brother lives Lone Star Downs where I like to go and watch the races and hang around the paddock. There are also several in Louisiana which are closer than Lone Star Downs. LOL!! It's good he did well =) with the cutting that cow sense makes a world of difference.
I do generally watch the equestrian portion of the Olympics. McLain Ward and Antares are very graceful in the show jumping events.
I have never actually played polo, but it always seemed like fun!! I have run rings and did a little barrel racing, reining, and of course cutting horses. Living on a farm it's just one of those things! The military drill teams are pretty big in Texas they usually have a mini show with flags before the county fair opens and again when the rodeos come to town oh and team driving which is kind of fun to watch. There is a race track not too far from where my brother lives Lone Star Downs where I like to go and watch the races and hang around the paddock. There are also several in Louisiana which are closer than Lone Star Downs. LOL!! It's good he did well =) with the cutting that cow sense makes a world of difference.
I do generally watch the equestrian portion of the Olympics. McLain Ward and Antares are very graceful in the show jumping events.
Driving is one of the things I never got to do. My grandfather made a buggy but the horse he bought me to drive got bitten by a snake and died before we could start her
My computer wont got to the page because I'm rendering so I can't link straight to my gallery but if you go to my animal stock folder, I think I've got a couple of photos of a couple of horses I used to ride (I used to jump in my dressage saddle because I couldn't afford another one, the x-country pic was a borrowed saddle, sitll, it was a hybrid dressage/all-purpose) Rae134 on DeviantArt
Hard to tell because they are black and white but the Palomino was the only one of those that I actually owned. That was when I first got her and she wasn't really in any condition except fat (she hadn't been ridden in 2 years and was only a 6 year old).
My computer wont got to the page because I'm rendering so I can't link straight to my gallery but if you go to my animal stock folder, I think I've got a couple of photos of a couple of horses I used to ride (I used to jump in my dressage saddle because I couldn't afford another one, the x-country pic was a borrowed saddle, sitll, it was a hybrid dressage/all-purpose
) Rae134 on DeviantArtHard to tell because they are black and white but the Palomino was the only one of those that I actually owned. That was when I first got her and she wasn't really in any condition except fat
(she hadn't been ridden in 2 years and was only a 6 year old).