Dawn in Reallusion CC3!

Discussion in 'It's About the Art!' started by Ken1171, Aug 17, 2018.

  1. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Good question. We will eventually find that out.
     
  2. Chris

    Chris HW3D President Staff Member Co-Founder

    Our agreement for our core HiveWire figure content that is iClone format ready, will be exclusive at the Reallusion Content Store as a key content partner.

    But we believe it will be of value to have some additional supportive content that will be available in our HiveWire store. Having said that, we also believe it will be of value for CAs to have iClone formatted content here also, as well as in the Reallusion Marketplace.

    This is all early in development right now. We're still working thru plans with the Reallusion folks. We aim to create a strong relationship with Reallusion, and we'll do what we can that makes sense for this to happen.

    More to come as this all gets fleshed out. The main thing for us, our CAs, and customers to take away is, that we have a potential new audience and software group to sell into, another rich creative outlet for expression.
     
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  3. Willowisp

    Willowisp Eager

    Thanks for your reply, Chris :)
     
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  4. AniMajik

    AniMajik Inspired

    Looking forward to the HW figures at Reallusions. They ("Dawn", "Dusk", etc) will be a fine addition to Character Creator! Most likely the HW morphs will come out shortly after the CC3 debut (Soon).

    -AniMajik | FatCatAlley.net | Sit Back, Relax and Enjoy the Show!
     
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  5. Alisa

    Alisa Peacekeeper & HW3D QAV Queen Bee Staff Member QAV-BEE

    Exciting stuff :)

    Welcome to HiveWire, AniMajik!
     
  6. AniMajik

    AniMajik Inspired

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    AniMajik Inspired

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  8. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Welcome to the HiveWire forums AniMajik. ;)
     
  9. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    It will! Chris has mentioned it above that HW will open a new store section for Reallusion CC/iClone contents. :)

    Welcome to the forums! ^_____^
     
  10. Chris

    Chris HW3D President Staff Member Co-Founder

    Thanks for your supportive comments AniMajik. And thanks for taking time to chime in.

    We're very excited to be working with Reallusion. Several plans will come to light over the next couple of months.
     
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  11. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    For those unfamiliar with the kinds of things people can create with iClone, here is a example that has been recently made.

     
  12. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Here's another iClone movie, now with Legos! :D

     
  13. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    They day has finally arrived - Character Creator 3 and the I-ray plugin for both CC3 and iClone7 have been released, and are ready for download for those who have purchased them. The Reallision promos for the HW figures look GORGEOUS! You can see the official Reallusion page for the HW figures pack HERE.

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  14. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    How to convert DAZ Genesis figures (any of them) + clothing and hair to CC3, and then render them in iClone 7 with I-Ray? The same method can be used with HW figures in DS.

     
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  15. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    What figures are compatible with CC3 using DS? Surprisingly, even V4 and M4 are.

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  16. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    There is a new tool in CC3 called "Transformer", which is what was used in the demo video from above. It is claimed to be able to TOTALLY convert DS contents into CC3, automatically converting all materials to PBR compatible with I-ray, and also preserving all clothing and hair morphs that existed in the original pieces in DS. Of course, I will have to test this myself, but the process that used to be very complicated in 3DXChange now looks like a 1-click solution to convert. and then 1-click to transfer the weight maps. In DS, this last part is either handled by 1-click Auto-Fit, or with the more powerful Transfer Utility. In CC3, Transformer does it very similarly to Auto-Fit, so DS users might find it familiar. I was just surprised that the clothing and hair morphs would also be transferred, because this doesn't happen in Poser/DS.
     
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  17. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    I don't have the latest version of DS, but that certainly sounds very useful for folks who do have it.
     
  18. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Well, DS is free, so trying it out is completely risk-free.

    I was looking at the conversion tools, and noticed that although CC3's Transformer tool has some similarities with the Transfer Utility (TU) from DS, there some significant automations. For example, the TU can only handle 1 single geometry at a time, while Transformer handles them all at once. We only have to identify which is clothing, which are shoes, and which is hair. There is also an option to bake the DS textures, so that once saved to the CC3 library, they can also be used with the default CC3 figure.

    CC3 also has a special tool to handle high heel shoes, and this is important because iClone uses feet contact IK that allows adjusting the feet pose without having to go through the rigging adjustment that was previously necessary with 3DXChange. This is a huge improvement in the workflow, where high heel poses are no longer physically bond to the figures.
     
  19. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Oh I used DS versions 2, 3 Advanced and finally 4 Pro. I just never updated after that, and returned back to Poser.
     
  20. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Yeah, I know of some others who didn't like DS4 for one reason or another. Personally, I only use DS for content creation, so I am not a DS user myself. However, it can serve as a bridge to iClone, which can be attractive to DS users, especially now that the conversions were greatly simplified, and also because iClone can now render with I-ray. This caters for these who want better animation tools, and also for those who just want to render stills, while taking advantage of the iClone world building capabilities.
     

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