Oh I liked the software, in fact I was on both beta teams for version 3 and 4. I just got annoyed when Genesis 2 came out, and we would have to purchase new versions of clothes and such we had for every version of Vicky since V3 because Autofit wasn't that good back then. Enough was enough. Besides, except for a handful of items made ONLY for DS, 98% of my DS 3A Runtime is filled with Poser compatible products. I only gave up on P5 because it kept crashing on me, but I had a feeling it was my old Win98 SE OS that was causing the issues. I had DS 2 on my old laptop at that time, so continued with that instead. I still have both DS 3A and DS 4P installed on this laptop, and use them when I'm inspired to do so. I had decided to get back into Poser, so didn't see the necessity to continue updating DS 4.x I'm not a content creator, so it never seemed necessary to me.