eclark1894
Visionary
Actually, mine is in Users> Public Documents. But I've had no issues. Of course, I do HAVE a Windows folder, but Program Files is not in it.
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Actually, mine is in Users> Public Documents. But I've had no issues. Of course, I do HAVE a Windows folder, but Program Files is not in it.
BTW, Python 2.7 is being officially retired (no longer supported) by January 1st, 2020, which is less than 3 months from now. Would Rendo keep using that version with Poser? If not, all of our existing Python scripts and plugins will stop working. Something to think about.
Hornet3d
Wise
I can see that the dropping of a 32bit versions has left some people in a difficult position but 32bit has not been around for a while. Same goes for versions of Windows as an OS, the support for XP has already been dropped and Windows 7 loses support in around 13 weeks. Banks here in the UK have already withdrawn on line banking support for XP and are saying they will be doing the same for Windows 7. In this world of trying to reduce stuff being thrown away doing just that to a still working computer seems wrong but then that is the price of technology to some degree.
Having backward compatibility is fine in principle but there are times when the world has just moved too far ahead. Sadly people will get left behind but I guess that is as inevitable as old age.
@Miss B you raise an excellent point regarding Windoze UAC - this will cause unending problems if Poser is installed to default Windows directories. This is not unique to Poser, and has been covered exhaustively in Microsoft support forums, tech guru sites, windows forums, etc...
Long Ago I made a habbit of partitioning my main drive and installing all of my important software (3d apps, graphics apps, video tools, sound tools) in a seperate partition. This way they were protected against loss if I needed to reinstall the OS, and in Windows 7 I do not have the stupid UAC interfering with editing or rearranging my folders. Additionally, I have noted on Windows 7, even with the Windows firewall disabled, if you do not make exceptions for components of Poser and it's library the firewall will interfere and Poser will throw errors ranging from missing content to a blank library - @Ken1171 this might be what you are experiencing? Granted I have only tested this on Poser 2012 and 2014 GD since my Win 7 machine is mainly a render node.
Long Ago I made a habbit of partitioning my main drive and installing all of my important software (3d apps, graphics apps, video tools, sound tools) in a seperate partition. This way they were protected against loss if I needed to reinstall the OS, and in Windows 7 I do not have the stupid UAC interfering with editing or rearranging my folders. Additionally, I have noted on Windows 7, even with the Windows firewall disabled, if you do not make exceptions for components of Poser and it's library the firewall will interfere and Poser will throw errors ranging from missing content to a blank library - @Ken1171 this might be what you are experiencing? Granted I have only tested this on Poser 2012 and 2014 GD since my Win 7 machine is mainly a render node.
Hornet3d
Wise
All my runtimes are on a single drive, it is easier to back up that way. That said I let the installer do what it wanted but told it to use my existing preferences. The only change was a new Poser 11 runtime added to my list.
Ugghh... my laptop is Win 7 and there is no way I can afford to replace it in the next few months... then again I saw this crunch I am in coming over a year ago...
Oh please is that really neccasary. Any excuse to throw dirt at DS users and there you are. This is why I rarely use Poser and probably now won't bother upgrading if I have problems I wouldn't dare step foot in the Poser forums to ask for help. Your attitude really doesn't help Poser or Rendo at al;l I wonder if you realise how many you drive away.
I think it all depends on how the computer is set up. I have a Users > Public > Public Documents folder, but I also have a Users > missb > My Documents. I think the Public folder is for "anyone" using the computer. That comes in handy when it's a desktop which several members of a family may use. Mine is set up so My Documents, My Music, My Pictures, My Videos, etc. is only for my use.
I don't know if they'll keep using 2.7 indefinitely, but I can't see them jumping over to the new version immediately. Also, and I know this from experience with my web host updating their Python version, that I have yet to have a problem with any plugins, etc. written in Python that I may be using on any of my sites.
That said, it all depends on how large a change the new version will be. I don't know that it's totally rewritten with each and every update, so the switch to a new version of Python may not require a total rewrite of every script we use in Poser 11.2 going forward. Time will tell.
No, the issue with Poser getting lost with geometry and texture file locations is as old as Poser supporting multiple runtimes. It only remembers where files were last time you have used them. This is a problem with multiple runtimes because every time you use an item from a different one, Poser will think the next file will be in that location. Most likely it will not, so Poser gets confused.
Python 3 was released in 2008, so we can't really call it "new". It has been around for 11 years. There are significant changes in the language syntax, so it will break existing Poser extensions if switched from 2 to 3. Python 2 is being officially retired by the end of this year, so that might put Poser in a tight spot, because most other programs have been transitioning to the current version through the last decade.
Well "new" could be the difference between 2.7 and 2.8 or 2.9. I don't keep notes as to what the newest version of Python is, but knowing how SM didn't really bother to keep Poser up-to-date, it's not surprising to me it hasn't already been transitioned to version 3.
That said, we don't know if the Bondware dev team isn't already transitioning it. It's possible they're doing it a bit at a time, and will be fully done by the end of the year, if not sooner. Again, only time will tell, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed it goes well.
That said, we don't know if the Bondware dev team isn't already transitioning it. It's possible they're doing it a bit at a time, and will be fully done by the end of the year, if not sooner. Again, only time will tell, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed it goes well.
I have to say this isn't really behavior I have run into across multiple Poser versions (Poser 7/Pro, 2010, 2012, and 2014GD) and I have used Multiple runtimes since moving from P4 Pro Pack to 7. I tend to build complex scenes drawing from multiple runtimes too. Maybe I have been lucky as the only thing similar to this first manifested on my Windows 7 render machines.
I think it would be easier for me if Poser would simply ASK me where the files are instead of searching all over the place with brute force. I have 4 drives in this PC, where some are quite large (data storage), and it takes forever. I was forced to switch to "shallow" search, but a side effect is that I often have to tell Poser where things are. But one behavior that has happened consistently across Poser versions was that once it asks for a file location, it will keep asking for the location of all others - even if they are all in the same place. It doesn't care to look first, before asking.
Here again, if Poser would use meta-data when saving files, none of this would happen.
Ohhhhh, I have come across instances where it just pops a window in the folder it's looking at, and then if that happens, all I need to do is go to the proper folder to find the appropriate texture.
Needless to say, if this happens while I'm beta testing, then I check the paths to the texture(s) to make sure they're correct.
Needless to say, if this happens while I'm beta testing, then I check the paths to the texture(s) to make sure they're correct.
Even Netherworks scripts? Oh geez I depend on those.
Hornet3d
Wise
Same here, but the most annoying thing is that it opens the search dialog on the right place for each of the remaining files, so I just have to press enter. One would assume that once it knows the right folder, it would stop asking. If an asset has 10 textures, it will ask 10 times over the same folder.
It doesn't matter who made the script. Python 2 and 3 have different syntax for some operations. There are many online guides to help transitioning from version 2 to 3, but the code will have to be changed. The deadline for both Flash and Python 2.x is by the end of this year. Of course, Poser could keep using Python 2, since it ships with its own version pre-installed, but it won't be attractive for new Python programmers to get into it because nobody else will be using version 2 after December. This is significant since nearly all the guys who used to create Poser Python extensions have already retired.
Yes, we are all in the same boat.
eclark1894
Visionary
I didn't know that Python 2.7 was being retired, (thanks for the heads up Ken!) but I found this article that I think you guys should read. How to survive the end of Python 2