Harry Goes to Arabia

Discussion in 'It's About the Art!' started by VortigensBane, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Someone on the old forum was griping about not having enough stuff for Harry to wear, so that (along with a pet project of my own) got me started posting teasers of my progress. When the old forum crashed I kinda got sidetracked by other projects. However, I've started back to work, after enjoying Chris' new thread about how Harry came to be.

    I am going through and re-doing all of the tassels to reduce the face count, since each of the original tassel groups (which you can see in the test renders below) had 150,000 faces to it (Poser's Cloth Room did NOT like them!!!!!!). The new version which I'm working on has 980 per tassel (well, group of three, actually). That has reduced the simulation time DRASTICALLY, but due to the re-done mesh, I actually like the result better. The new UV map for the tassel is much better too; it would actually work to use a trans map like trans-mapped hair.

    To lead off with a few old renders:
    Arabian blanket 001.png
    Arabian blanket 002.png
    Arabian blanket 003.png
    Arabian blanket 004.png
    Arabian blanket 005.png
    Arabian blanket 006.png
    Arabian blanket 007.png Arabian blanket 007.png
    Arabian blanket 008.png
    Arabian blanket 009.png

    This is the "new and improved" version of the tassels; the lo-res tassels that I did on the reins were too l0-res, so this is somewhere in between the original blanket tassels and the rein tassels.
    new tassels.png
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  2. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    They're looking good VB. I totally forgot about these, so thanks for reposting them. :)
  3. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Thanks, Miss B. I am looking forward to the day that they are looking finished...
  4. CWRW

    CWRW Extraordinary HW3D Exclusive Artist

    Soooo cool! I hope you do get to finish this up!
  5. sanbie

    sanbie Noteworthy Contributing Artist

    These are looking great...I always forget to use Harry...Must start rearranging my Runtimes..
  6. Satira Capriccio

    Satira Capriccio Distinguished CV-BEE Contributing Artist

    Looking great!
  7. Pendraia

    Pendraia Seasoned Contributing Artist

    Beautiful...I take it that this is a Poser only project?
  8. Flint_Hawk

    Flint_Hawk Ambitious

    I would love to see this finished too! :)
  9. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Thank you, everyone, for your interest. For right now, it will begin as a Poser only project, but I would like to experiment with doing at least FBM presets for various poses, similar to the Equine Dreams packs at DAZ. Of course, that will require saving pennies to get all the nice pose packs available... I'm not all that good at coming up with the poses myself. Adding humans to the mix would also be a plus, but then I'd have to pose them too.
  10. Alisa

    Alisa HW3D QAV Queen Bee Staff Member QAV-BEE

    Hi, VB - welcome back!

    Glad to see this up here and that you're working on it again ;)
  11. Chris

    Chris HW3D President Staff Member Co-Founder

    Agreed. Very kind of you to re-post and show progress. Good stuff.
  12. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Thanks, Alisa and Chris! Chris, those in-the-works shots from Harry's development were awesome!
  13. Pendraia

    Pendraia Seasoned Contributing Artist

    I could have sworn I posted in this yesterday...oh dear another senior moment.

    Totally understandable VB...I'll just come and enjoy looking for the moment.
  14. Chris

    Chris HW3D President Staff Member Co-Founder

    Oh wow, thank you!
  15. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Um, I have a question this time rather than a progress report... I can see two possibilities for UV-mapping the blanket: doing a mirror image of only half of the blanket, split down the middle from nose to tail, or unwrapping the whole blanket as if it were lying on the ground. I can see pros and cons for each way, so I'd like some opinions...

    Option 1 pros and cons :
    Using a patterned procedural texture is a LOT easier, since the pattern faces right-side-up on both sides of the blanket automatically, since the texture mirrors itself off of the center back.
    If you want to use a non-symmetrical texture, you're sunk, because you only have half of a UV map.

    Option 2 pros and cons:
    Patterned procedural textures end up either half upside down or completely sideways.
    Non-symmetrical textures work properly.

    Any ideas?
  16. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    Now for the progress report...

    Entire blanket with tassels is now down to 60,000-ish faces. Does that sound "normal-sized"? Render times have improved from 10+ minutes per frame to about 2 minutes per frame. I have included test renders in both "masculine" and "feminine" colors.

    Arabian blanket 010.png Arabian blanket 011.png
    It looks like the tassels are getting messed up somehow at the front; will have to take a look at that...
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  17. Pendraia

    Pendraia Seasoned Contributing Artist

    Oh wow...just stunning!
  18. Flint_Hawk

    Flint_Hawk Ambitious

    This is wonderfully elaborate!
  19. VortigensBane

    VortigensBane Busy Bee

    But is it too many faces? Elaborate is no good if it crashes your computer...
  20. CWRW

    CWRW Extraordinary HW3D Exclusive Artist

    I would say option 1 since a mirrored image is more likely to be used than a non-symmetrical texture and allows the patterned procedural option. On the 60,000 faces I have no idea. 2 minutes per frame sounds pretty good though.
    I really am liking this a lot!


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