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SKYLAB CHAT

skylab

Esteemed
Poses 6 and 7 ran successfully, so that's it! Just in time for my afternoon nap :)

Will work on a quick step-by-step tutorial tonight to release with the set....just in time for Easter weekend...whew, made it.

See you all later...thanks PDG and everyone for your help with this :)

GETHSEMANE - POSE 6.jpg


GETHSEMANE - POSE 7.jpg
 

parkdalegardener

Adventurous
Right on. Glad to see everything is coming together.

For the group poses: You can run the sims one at a time using the same 30 frames over and over again. The sims, once calculated; are not recalculated unless you tell Poser to so. This allows you to see how all of them look together in the same scene. There is no computer overhead having multiple sims in a scene unless you hit Recalculate. At least not the type of RAM CPU use that would slow Poser to a crawl. This includes dynamic hair. I cannot say about soft body physics. I haven't checked as I do that type of animation in different software.

If multiple sims are required to get character interaction; such as a hug, then run the sim on the bottom first and layer them upwards to the top one. Think of it this way. When a person gets dressed in the a.m. they put their undergarments on first, followed by pants, then their shirt, and finally a sweater on over the top. This type of stuff is easy enough but may require you to think out of the box a bit.

Bikes: My first was a Honda 250 road/dirt bike. It went up from there. A Gold Wing 750 full faring, a KZ1000; and finally on to the Shovelhead that almost killed me. I fell asleep if you can believe it. Even with the racket a Harley makes. Long story and probably not ready for prime time exposure.
 

skylab

Esteemed
Thanks PDG for the multiple figure tips....I actually think I understood it...haha. You're saying start with the bottom, or inner, layer stuff first, then work outward where dynamics are concerned. I sure appreciate your taking time to help with this. Of course you know, now you're a part of the chat group, so I hope you plan on continuing to stop by to share your input or just let us know how you're doing. Some days we just chat about anything, other times we're doing projects...so please come back and be a regular part of what goes on here :)

Obviously you're an advanced Poser user....do you ever use DAZ Studio? Just thought I'd ask, since Seliah is a dedicated DS user, and DS is just getting into dynamics with the DynCreator plug-in from Rendo, and someone has done a free tutorial using DynCreator in DS. You have dynamic clothing so well mastered, just wondered if you had taken a look at this recently released plug-in.

Well, I've got all the poses bundled up, ready for upload to ShareCG, and just have to put together a quick PDF tutorial to help if users want to try Bionic Rooster's robe. Even if it's late tonight or some time tomorrow before it's all zipped and uploaded, folks will have it a full week before Easter weekend. I may do some small dynamic cloth projects that don't involve a background scene, just to make sure repetition helps me to remember the steps.

PDG...falling asleep on a Harley...man...all the blub, blub, blub of the engine...wow. Yamaha is like yyyiiiiing-ging-ging-ging-ging. I took a few spills, usually head first...and I decided trail riding was more my thing o_O
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Hi, Sky. :) It's nice to see that you're making some real progress here. I'm glad someone was able to help you out with the Poser dynamics. That's just something I could not do.

PDG, thanks so much for making the time, and the effort, to offer up your help. It's been very informative, and I appreciate your efforts also.

Sky, I am probably going to be a little quiet for a few more days here. Not been feeling too well myself lately (I really hate antibiotics LOL), and also gearing up for both planting season as well as flea market season, on top of 3D. So I am out of the house more than in it at this time of year and can be a bit scarce in the forums around this time.

I'm glad you're finding the reset poses helpful. I'll try to get the Gen3 ones finished soon, but tonight I have to get a couple of small banners done for the store. :laugh:
 

skylab

Esteemed
Hey Seliah....hope you're feeling better soon...and I certainly understand when real life stuff has to be done. Tomorrow morning early I'm off to run errands as usual. This is the last of the pressing projects that was time sensitive...so I'll be back to just doing the usual stuff, and piddling here and there to learn more about dynamics, more about DS...and I still have a M3 and Genesis Last Supper set to do. I may do some small pose sets before jumping into the LS sets....I need some fun stuff for awhile as a break. Hope you get the break you need to do all you need to do. And I know you'll check in when you get time :)
 

skylab

Esteemed
Here's the PDF of the information on the Poser Cloth Room that PDG shared with me over the past couple of days. I tried to make it simple, with a lot of pictures illustrating where settings are located. I'll be including this in the pose set download, but I also wanted to make it available here.

PDG, feel free to take this PDF and use it when helping others, or post it in your section on the PFD forum if you want. Without your help, there wouldn't even be a tutorial, so share it freely, if you think it reflects accurate information that will be helpful.
 

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Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Thanks for making that available Sky. I'm sure lots of folks who aren't familiar with the Cloth Room and dynamic clothing will find it useful.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Hey Seliah....hope you're feeling better soon...and I certainly understand when real life stuff has to be done.

Yeah, hoping so also. I've had a nasty bi-lateral ear infection raging for a while, combined with a sinus infection. Plus... my Bear is a union carpenter, as I've mentioned in the past I think. Well, one of the nasty things he works with on the job is mineral wool, which is no longer made out of the same stuff as it used to be, and instead is made with lots and lots of other things... like glass... and with the way it's produced, it frequently ends up having mixes of dirt and other particles in it as well.

So anyway; he frequently leaves little trails of things from the job site around the house. Sometimes it's bigger stuff that I bark at him about, such as pieces of bright pink fire-spray compound left on the bathroom sink when he washes up... :laugh:

Other times it's these little shreds of mineral wool. The antibiotics are because he left one of these slivers of it somewhere around the house, and I ended up with a piece of it embedded in my hand when I went to brush my hair.

Mineral wool is really nasty stuff. The slivers of it, because of the glass content, pierce the skin like very precision needles, so the skin actually heals over pretty quickly, as the stuff does not make much of a hole when it goes in. It's also prone to, again because of the glass content, breaking apart under the skin when you try to get it out. And, because of the first factor (precision needle piercing), the only good way to get it out is to cut away the skin around where the sliver embedded itself. And because of the second factor (the breaking apart thing), if you try to take it out like you would a normal wood or metal sliver, you end up breaking pieces of it off under the skin.

Slivers of mineral wool rapidly cause infections. As in, quickly-goes-to-septicemia types of infections. Carpenters on the job are pretty adept at getting these slivers out of their hands with things like a pair of tweezers and a retractable knife/box cutter. They then wrap duct tape around it, and that pretty much keeps the area sealed as well as avoids infection.

I didn't realize it was mineral wool at the time, and treated it like a normal sliver. Had one small, tiny piece trapped under the skin but couldn't get it out (got the rest of it out of my hand okay). Again, didn't realize it was actually a mineral wool sliver... until it started flaring up and showing signs of infection, and hubby stared at it and pretty much immediately demanded to know how long it had been stuck under the skin. Bear can growl just like a bear when he has the right motivation. Next thing I knew he was growling about the fact that it wasn't a normal sliver and he went for the box cutter and tweezers right away. He was able to get the last pieces out, but I still ended up on an antibiotic afterwards. It had been stuck in my hand for several days. (Almost a week, actually.)

And then I turned out to be allergic to the first antibiotic they gave me. So now I'm on a different one. LOL

Yay for being married to a carpenter. :roflmao:

Here's the PDF of the information on the Poser Cloth Room that PDG shared with me over the past couple of days. I tried to make it simple, with a lot of pictures illustrating where settings are located. I'll be including this in the pose set download, but I also wanted to make it available here.

That actually will be very helpful if I ever get around to trying dynamics inside of Poser. So thank you for consolidating it all like that! I'm sure it will help out other folks as well. And I will definitely be referencing it again if I get into playing with dynamics inside of Poser. ;)
 

skylab

Esteemed
My goodness Seliah...isn't it something how something seemingly small can cause so much of an issue in terms of infection, and it can't be pleasant cutting into flesh that has become infected. And I know antibiotics can be unpleasant. Sounds like you need some down time for a few days, and definitely keep the injury out of working in the dirt just yet. Take care of yourself.

I was hoping you'd find the Cloth Room PDF potentially helpful...should the time come when you'd like to try it, it will help you navigate all the settings without having to read so much, or watch a lengthy video.

I'm uploading the pose sets now. I mentioned everyone here in the chat thread on the Poser set download page, for all the help given.



M4 GETHSEMANE for POSER

DS4 GETHSEMANE FOR M4


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Terre

Renowned
Skylab, you have been one busy kitty. :) I'm also sure a lot of people will appreciate your work on both the sets and the tutorial.

Seliah, my sympathies and please take care of yourself. I'm all too familiar with being allergic to antibiotics as I'm allergic to sulfa. It did save my life as a two year old so there is that (the dosage they had me on is likely why I developed an allergy).
 

skylab

Esteemed
Good morning Terre :) Grabbing a little breakfast so I can get ready to go out for my weekly errands. Hope all is well for everyone :)
 

parkdalegardener

Adventurous
Hey there Skylab. Glad you got everything together. As to using Studio and their dynamics; not a clue. I don't use Studio. I've been using Poser since V1. Poser Figure Artist. I have a pretty good grasp on it by now. I had issues with DAZ some time back. I know new people have had the company for years now, and that the software is getting better and more robust all the time; but I'm a crotchety old man with an un-natural grudge against DAZ. So to spite the nose on my face I just stay away from them.

I use a lot of different software. Most of it quite old now as I no longer have the income to update everything. The one new thing I have obtained that I am working on mastering is Substance Painter. Kind of like Photoshop for PBR materials. I lets me make materials that are usable in just about every modern render engine out there. They will work in iRay as well so DAZ people could use them.
 

skylab

Esteemed
Hey PDG...I was off doing some cross-linking at ShareCG since I realized these pose sets are easy to find now since they are so visible, but a year from now, they will be scattered parts that may be difficult to find...so I was taking care of that and missed your post.

I know quite a few people who share your feelings about DAZ, so it's understood. I was just wondering, since you're so good at dynamics, if you had even tried it in DS.

I saw the recent announcement about Substance Painter 2 having a price reduction on its Indie license. If I thought I had a lot of time left to do 3D, I might would consider looking into Substance Painter...sounds interesting...and you're saying that it's compatible with Poser's mat room?

I suspect this will be my last Poser upgrade (I'm at 11 now)...I'm thankful for the adjustable text in the new interface, since it allows me to work longer with eye fatigue. But part of being in retirement is adjusting things to the income...know all about that one too.

Make sure you get the PDF for Dynamic Robes at post 1828 (near the top of this page) :)

I'll be running out for errands soon, and back on later...have a good day everyone :)
 

skylab

Esteemed
Have returned from first part of my errands, and need to go out one more time.

Just a quick note to leave the ShareCG link to the dynamic robe tutorial...it's posted separately for users who are just interested in the cloth room information. Everyone in our group here was mentioned in the description for credit on the contribution to the dynamic cloth project :)

DYNAMIC ROBES IN POSER CLOTH ROOM

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Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Seliah, my sympathies and please take care of yourself. I'm all too familiar with being allergic to antibiotics as I'm allergic to sulfa.
I am as well, but didn't know it until they gave it to me while I was in the hospital with pneumonia. I didn't have any obvious signs of an allergy, until the day the head day nurse asked if I'd like a bath, and when we took of my hospital gown, my torso had brown spots all over it, so they had to change the intravenous antibiotics for the rest of my stay.

Seliah, sorry to hear about the mineral wool. I've never heard of it, but I've had wood splinters in my hands/fingers many times growing up, so I know a little bit about not getting it all out at once, even with tweezers.
 

skylab

Esteemed
Seliah, if you check in, hope you're feeling better...and we look forward to your being back in the swing soon :shineon:
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Sky, yeah, I think I'm finally out of the Benadryl coma here. LOL I was basically doing the awake for a few minutes and then sleeping for hours again thing. Benadryl knocks me out for about 18 hours once it kicks in.

Doing a little bit better now, yes. We did catch it before septicemia could set in, thankfully, but the round of antibiotics was ugly on the first medication as I had no idea I would have been allergic to it. So I got stuck on Benadryl and a second, different antibiotic afterwards.

Working on pose sets and trying to finish up the DS version of the dirt overlays today... also working on a layout for a program booklet for my Bear's congregation... apparently, he tells everyone that I work as a graphic designer... LOL. Next thing I knew, is his priest and the people who ran the 100th anniversary thing are asking me if I can do the layout for the booklets (basically a collage of photographs and stuff) that are going to be distributed to the folks who attended.

It's a really good thing that I'm off the Benadryl finally! :D
 
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