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Lorraine
The Wicked Witch of the North
Welcome back to Cyberspace, Rokket!
This was me to a some extent. I remember reading Ben Hur at 10 years of age and being slightly befuddled. But loving it all the same.
This was me to a some extent. I remember reading Ben Hur at 10 years of age and being slightly befuddled. But loving it all the same.
quietrob
Extraordinary
It's about time! I was sad without seeing that icon of yours popping up here and there. I don't know who broke your internet but tell 'em to knock it off!
Welcome back, rokket!
quietrob
Extraordinary
And they get paid for being happy in their ignorance and knowing less. Lovely Lorraine is right.
That sucks!
Rokket
Dances with Bees
I am in Hawaii now, but stuck on the ship with duty.
Ha! I just remembered that line from Wreck-it Ralph: "It's my duty."
"Hehehehehee!"
"Not that kind of duty!"
I will be able to go ashore tomorrow afternoon. We are 3 hours behind the West coast time-wise, so I will be on here around 3PM PDT... or whatever...
Ha! I just remembered that line from Wreck-it Ralph: "It's my duty."
"Hehehehehee!"
"Not that kind of duty!"
I will be able to go ashore tomorrow afternoon. We are 3 hours behind the West coast time-wise, so I will be on here around 3PM PDT... or whatever...
Sadly Lorraine, except on rare occasions, that's the story of every book-to-movie ever done.When I saw the movie I was going "but, that's not what happened!" Story of my life
Hmmmm, I thought they did a fairly decent job of LoTR, but no book to movie translation is 100%. It's when a book by a top author is totally changed when filmed that pisses me off. I found that when a friend told me to read a Tom Clancy book when I had already seen the movie. Whole sections of the book were left out.
Of course, taking a nice sized book and fitting the story into approximately 90-120 minutes isn't easy.
Of course, taking a nice sized book and fitting the story into approximately 90-120 minutes isn't easy.
Lorraine
The Wicked Witch of the North
WHAT!!!!! They turned Glorfindel into a GIRL! They made Gimli a joke! They added a whole pile of stuff that never happened! Don't get me started. My son told me on no account should I go watch these at the movie theatre cos I would be screaming at the screen the whole way through. He knows his mum very well. And what annoys me the most is it was a KIWI! who did them. A KIWI who ruined my favourite books of all time. I'll never forgive him for that, never.
I liked the movies ... especially Gimli. What can I say? I've become so much easier to please in my old age :wink:
They are a different telling of the story than what is told in the books. No doubt about that. But then, no movie can ever capture what you created in your head as you read so most books to movies are disappointing. I remember being rather livid over the results of some books being made into movies. Not that I can even remember what books or movies those were anymore! Maybe if I think awhile, I can remember the movies that angered me the most. I seem to recall It was one. Though it was also rather terrifying both as a book and a movie. Oh, I know. I was incredibly disappointed in the Wizard of Oz. They changed everything, and left us believing Dorothy dreamed it all. She hadn't! There really, REALLY is an Oz.
But ... I digress.
The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings were literary adaptations by Tolkien of the Red Book of Westmarch manuscripts. These manuscripts included material Bilbo translated from Elvish Lore as well as Bilbo's memoirs. Bilbo expanded his memoirs to include the adventures of Frodo, but it was left to first Frodo and then Samwise to complete the manuscripts. The original Red Book of Westmarch manuscripts were lost ... fortunately, not before several copies had been made. The first copy went to Gondor where it became the Thain's Book and was annotated, corrected, and expanded by the dwarves. Some decades later, a copy of a revised and expanded Thain's Book was delivered to the Shire and kept in Great Smials. That version is what Tolkien translated to English ... though I'm sure it underwent quite a few changes to become more appealing to his audience.
Sooo ... when you think of the movie as being adaptations of Tolkien's adaptation, it's entirely possible some things changed over time. Glorfindel may actually have originally been a girl And dwarves? Well seriously. Dwarves can be rather strange, don't you think? I mean ... have you ever seen a female dwarf? They must exist. But, do we really believe that female dwarves are just as bearded as male dwarves? Possibly. Could be that Gimli was actually female!
They are a different telling of the story than what is told in the books. No doubt about that. But then, no movie can ever capture what you created in your head as you read so most books to movies are disappointing. I remember being rather livid over the results of some books being made into movies. Not that I can even remember what books or movies those were anymore! Maybe if I think awhile, I can remember the movies that angered me the most. I seem to recall It was one. Though it was also rather terrifying both as a book and a movie. Oh, I know. I was incredibly disappointed in the Wizard of Oz. They changed everything, and left us believing Dorothy dreamed it all. She hadn't! There really, REALLY is an Oz.
But ... I digress.
The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings were literary adaptations by Tolkien of the Red Book of Westmarch manuscripts. These manuscripts included material Bilbo translated from Elvish Lore as well as Bilbo's memoirs. Bilbo expanded his memoirs to include the adventures of Frodo, but it was left to first Frodo and then Samwise to complete the manuscripts. The original Red Book of Westmarch manuscripts were lost ... fortunately, not before several copies had been made. The first copy went to Gondor where it became the Thain's Book and was annotated, corrected, and expanded by the dwarves. Some decades later, a copy of a revised and expanded Thain's Book was delivered to the Shire and kept in Great Smials. That version is what Tolkien translated to English ... though I'm sure it underwent quite a few changes to become more appealing to his audience.
Sooo ... when you think of the movie as being adaptations of Tolkien's adaptation, it's entirely possible some things changed over time. Glorfindel may actually have originally been a girl
And dwarves? Well seriously. Dwarves can be rather strange, don't you think? I mean ... have you ever seen a female dwarf? They must exist. But, do we really believe that female dwarves are just as bearded as male dwarves? Possibly. Could be that Gimli was actually female!
Lorraine
The Wicked Witch of the North
Now that there's fighting talk!