And talking about photo references, there was this guy from the SMS forums who did an experiment with the original Dawn, using a photograph of a woman with a skeleton on another layer, using that as a reference to reposition Dawn's thigh bone origins. Based on the photos, Dawn's thigh bones were placed a bit too low. By placing them where they were in the photo, the legs would pose better (including the legs split pose) even without JCMs. Of course, the weight maps would no longer be at the right places, but I think that was a great way to figure out where exactly to place the thigh bones in particular. I imagine it would be hard to figure that out without a reference, so the idea of overlaying a human skeleton on top of a real woman was a good idea. The result was a modified Dawn with thighs that posed much better after matching the bone positions with the photos.