Show Us Your Dawn Renders!

[Miss B]

One of the things that keeps me from investigating Blender more is there is no bridge between Poser and Blender.

I wouldn't be surprised if one is created once the Poser dev team has fully created Unimesh for Poser. Then projects in Blender for Poser will stay all one piece, instead of breaking up into many pieces when exported from Poser.

 

[Ken1171]

One of the many advantages of unimesh Poser is how easy it will be to integrate it with other programs.

 

[Pendraia]

@RAMWolff Did you know there is one between daz studio now and also Maya. Have you switched over totally to poser?

 

[RAMWolff]

Yes, fully Poser. I use DS about 3 times a year for some of the tools it offers.

 

[Pendraia]

Wow! I can't imaginge ever doing that. What made you change?

 

[RAMWolff]

DS is too much for my old brain. Poser is quite robust as well in many ways but honestly, for the most part, just makes more sense to me.

 

[Pendraia]

I'm so the reverse to that Ram! I find DS so intuitive after using it for so many years. I'm struggling to do the basics in Poser. I haven't even tried to open the dress in there. For now I'm just playing with setting up the textures I did for Alexis camisole set.

 

[RAMWolff]

My history with Poser wasn't all that great. I started with Poser 4 and that was horrible. I tried a couple more versions while working with DAZ Studio when it was only in beta and tested a bit for them. Then by the time that DAZ Studio was out of beta I had forgotten about Poser but always maintained my upgrades and then things started getting more and more complicated in DS and I just found myself loosing interest and of course had my upgrade to Poser and had version 11 so installed it. It wasn't instantaneous in getting comfy, I asked ALLOT of questions but I started getting it pretty well and now, while I'm no pro at using it, I'm very comfy. DO I miss some tools in DS, sure. When I start doing allot of my production in Poser 12 I'll have allot of Ken's brilliant scripts to help my work flow improve and when Unimesh is fully a reality I think Poser 13 will be right up there with DS in allot of ways.

 

[Pendraia]

Everyone has to find what suits them...I just find poser very lacking in tools for creating things whereas ds makes it easy. As I want to make stuff for dawn as well as genesis I'll persevere with poser but I just find it hard even the simplest of things.

 

[Ken1171]

The more we use one software, the more the others look cumbersome. I am comfortable in both PSR and DS when creating contents, but when I am in one, I miss tools from the other. Neither is complete in all aspects. But when it comes to creating contents, Poser 13 might close the gap with DS, making integration easier. For the time being, I cannot live without PSR's morph tool - I morph everything. The Dependency Editor is also helpful - DS spreads this functionality all over the place. Morph and weights projections are terrible in Poser, much better in DS, but that's one thing unimesh might fix. We will have to wait and see.

 

[Pendraia]

Very true Ken...

 

[RAMWolff]

Yes, as I've gotten more used to using the Dependency Editor I find it very fast and MOSTLY reliable. Not that I don't run into issues with it or at times forget steps to get things working but I blame it on my old man brain. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! LOL

 

[Ken1171]

One of the [many] things I like about the Dependency Editor is its ability of setting multiple keys to a dependency, and also allowing setting negative numbers. Last I tried, can't do those in DS, but there are workarounds.

 

[unreal]

The more we use one software, the more the others look cumbersome. I am comfortable in both PSR and DS when creating contents, but when I am in one, I miss tools from the other. Neither is complete in all aspects. But when it comes to creating contents, Poser 13 might close the gap with DS, making integration easier. For the time being, I cannot live without PSR's morph tool - I morph everything. The Dependency Editor is also helpful - DS spreads this functionality all over the place. Morph and weights projections are terrible in Poser, much better in DS, but that's one thing unimesh might fix. We will have to wait and see.

Totally. Which is why standards in data files are so useful. Open and published standards. And why APIs are so important. Again, Published (and complete) APIs. The you can use what you want, to suit what your work.

 

[unreal]

Just because this thread has completely gone off the rails, an attempt to reign it back in. This is an absolutely nothing special render of the Willow character for Dawn. But it *is* a Dawn render. So there!

Willow connoisseurs will notice that this is a modified Willow. Anyone who knows Willow knows that she's a curvy character. This is a demonstration of using the Add-on I talked about to quickly modify the Willow morph in Blender then use the resulting OBJ as a FBM in poser. The morph (largely a slimming and skinnifying) of Willow was done completely with Blender's sculpting. Since dresses tend to NOT do so well in when copying morphs from Figure, I also used the sculpt to make a matching "young willow" morph for the dress.

It's a great way to see how Poser and Blender compliment each other. Setting up a character (certainly posing, dial morphing, applying mats) in Poser is a breeze. Click click click. While sculpting in a recent version of Blender is a breeze. Point, move, squish, stretch.

Being able to flip Objects (uni-meshed) back and forth makes for a very easy work flow. Blender sculpt makes fitting clothing to figures very fast.

I just put the "how to" file together and I need to take the PDF and .py file and put them somewhere public. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Workflow for this:

1. Load Dawn into Poser. Export as zero'd and welded.
2. Apply Willow morph. Export that welded.
3. Import the original, zero welded, and morphed welded OBJs into Blender.
4. Select the resulting objects with the add-on, click "make unimesh" and it instantly makes a unimesh object that's shaped like the morphed object. (it maps the zero welded to the original, then uses that map to create a morphed unimesh. You can sculpt that more (I did, in this case). Only took a few minutes to tweak into skinny/young.
5. Export that Object as OBJ. Now it can be used as a FBM in poser.

You can even go back and forth. Why? Sometimes Posers morph brush does better on smoothing. The algorithm seems optimised to favour Figures. If I modify in poser, it just becomes another morph (version 1.1, maybe). Export then import as a welded morph into Blender, change that mesh in the add-on and it will reform the unimesh (or if you want, make a new one). Then you export that again as a OBJ.

I find the fast back and forth super useful when I'm shaping a mesh, for any reason.

 

[Daniel Hicks(OganicPic)]

I am amazed at how good the poser morph brush works, the body was sculpted with posers morph brush, (bikini nudity)

 

[Ken1171]

I am amazed at how good the poser morph brush works, the body was sculpted with posers morph brush, (bikini nudity)

Yup. My entire "Body Type" series was sculpted with Poser's Morph brush. ^____^

 

[Pendraia]

I find the fast back and forth super useful when I'm shaping a mesh, for any reason.

Nice pic of Willow!

I find zbrush and the Daz bridge work superfast and the ease with which I can update the base mesh when creating clothing is so useful.

Talking of morphs though in poser can anyone point me to a good tutorial on loading morphs and also creating the injections?

 

[Ken1171]

To load a morph (of a figure): from the main menu, Figure -> Load Full Body Morph. To create an injection: from the main menu, File -> Export -> Morph Injection.

 

[RAMWolff]

Just wish the Morph Brush had a way to save personal brush settings. I've love to have more brush options too. It's a great tool but lacking and then I end up in ZBrush!