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Songbird Remix's Product Preview Thread
- Thread starter Ken Gilliland
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manekiNeko
Member
aaah yes! it's the one ^^
gonna email those proofs and see what Ken will do with them...
manekiNeko
Member
DONE!
All Songbird ReMix sets (with the except of the pose sets) are standalone.
The link is for my transfer program is here...
Renderosity is going to try to move the purchase data along with my store so I'll be able to continue the updating process. I don't expect that process to be flawless, so I will be keeping my transfer program for those who slipped through the cracks in my store move and those who still want the updates from purchases during my DAZ days. I don't expect this move to be without bumps so I'm not expecting to have my entire product line showing up on January 5th, although there will be two new Songbird ReMix there
I'd suggest doing the transfer now and getting SBRM (which is out) and Corvus (which may be released this week) before the HW stores closes
manekiNeko
Member
thank you Ken, fantastic! ^^ i just got a "thank you for your order" mail from HW, so it's already done !All Songbird ReMix sets (with the except of the pose sets) are standalone.
The link is for my transfer program is here...
Renderosity is going to try to move the purchase data along with my store so I'll be able to continue the updating process. I don't expect that process to be flawless, so I will be keeping my transfer program for those who slipped through the cracks in my store move and those who still want the updates from purchases during my DAZ days. I don't expect this move to be without bumps so I'm not expecting to have my entire product line showing up on January 5th, although there will be two new Songbird ReMix there
I'd suggest doing the transfer now and getting SBRM (which is out) and Corvus (which may be released this week) before the HW stores closes
Kerya
Brilliant
.... I don't expect this move to be without bumps so I'm not expecting to have my entire product line showing up on January 5th, although there will be two new Songbird ReMix there
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Oh squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Does anybody use 3Delight anymore with DAZ Studio? I was recently asked by testers why I still am including it since Iray is by far the renderer of choice in DS.
Yes. I don't use Iray if I can avoid it. I'll use firefly materials before I'll use Iray.
I loathe progressive rendering, and in Iray there is no way to turn it off.
I also don't give squat about photorealism. I *want* my images to look like they were printed in a book.
I loathe progressive rendering, and in Iray there is no way to turn it off.
I also don't give squat about photorealism. I *want* my images to look like they were printed in a book.
That has been my feeling but the testers at my new home were questioning why I was still including it. Saying that, it's true that Iray is my "go-to" renderer when working with DS... so I felt inclined to pose the question.
Firefly, on the other hand, is a no brainer... I still use it more Superfly and supposedly even Poser developers are still working/improving on it.
3DL is getting short shrift from pretty much everybody, but it's still a part of the program. I suspect that people are ignoring it because it *has* been a part of the program for so long. I agree that things like glass and metal and fluids are a bit harder to make convincing in 3DL. But one can *do* them. It isn't impossible. It isn't even all *that* difficult. You just need to deal with shaders, and that means taking it to 3rd-party add-ons. Iray is probably no better out of the box.
A couple of people in the DAZ forums claim that Studio doesn't have access to the full range of 3DL capabilities, since what it includes is a stripped-down version. I wouldn't know about that.
I do see that today there's a new tutorial on rendering in 3DL in the DAZ store. Somebody has evidently decided it might be time to do a bit of catch-up.
A couple of people in the DAZ forums claim that Studio doesn't have access to the full range of 3DL capabilities, since what it includes is a stripped-down version. I wouldn't know about that.
I do see that today there's a new tutorial on rendering in 3DL in the DAZ store. Somebody has evidently decided it might be time to do a bit of catch-up.
There does seem to be people who still use 3dl I'd hate to see it considered obsolete - its interesting that its Renderosity that feel that way and not Daz.
Also now we have Filament
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Doesn't surprise me. Rendo has always been more Poser-oriented, and now has even more reason to be so. They broker a lot of Studio content, but they are not at all involved in development for Studio. So pretty much everything over there is at second remove.
Actually, thinking back, Studio content only really started gaining traction at Rendo around the end of the G2 era, and only really started taking off after G3 launched. That was after a major shift in the paradigms with the changes in the Genesis figure, the addition of Iray to the program and probably a lot of other things which contributed to the rush toward photorealism.
Right now I get the impression that everyone is trying to cut themselves a larger slice of the game development pie, so everything is being thrown at animation -- which has a whole different list of variables and priorities. But 3DL is still there as a fall-back for everything. It's not optimized for either extreme, but it can do them. And does them reasonably well.
Actually, thinking back, Studio content only really started gaining traction at Rendo around the end of the G2 era, and only really started taking off after G3 launched. That was after a major shift in the paradigms with the changes in the Genesis figure, the addition of Iray to the program and probably a lot of other things which contributed to the rush toward photorealism.
Right now I get the impression that everyone is trying to cut themselves a larger slice of the game development pie, so everything is being thrown at animation -- which has a whole different list of variables and priorities. But 3DL is still there as a fall-back for everything. It's not optimized for either extreme, but it can do them. And does them reasonably well.
Part of the headache testers have with me is that they have to test my product x4 (firefly, superfly, 3DL and Iray), so I understand them wanting to trim the process if they can....
but it seems clear to me from the response I've received here that I'll keep 3DL support for at least another year
but it seems clear to me from the response I've received here that I'll keep 3DL support for at least another year
If I could make Filament look as good as Iray I'd use it in a heartbeat! It literally took seconds to render something that would take hours in Iray (or even 3DL)
Kerya
Brilliant
Thank you! And remember that this is a relatively small forum, with not that many vocal members. Like I said: over at Daz there are more people who like 3DL and refuse to buy things that don't have a 3dl version.