SKYLAB CHAT

[Terre]

One thing I'm finding difficult to get around...not impossible, just slightly difficult...Harry has these slender, stylized legs...but western rodeo horses are stocky and muscular. I could adjust Harry on my end, but if the user is applying the poses to the default Harry, there could be a significant difference, like accounting for how the saddle fits or the distance of Dusk's legs from the body. I'm beginning to see what Suro use to mention, about the build of certain horses...for the artwork to be authentic, it really does matter...but for pose creation, I'm sorta locked into a narrow path with the default. Same with facial expressions....if I go all out and create characters and facial expressions, then the user will have to have morph packs in order to apply them. Feels like a constraint that I'd like to break out of one of these days....oh well, just thinking out loud.

I think most of the rodeo horses are probably Quarter Horses. I was told as a child that the breed is 1/4th Thoroughbred and 3/4ths mustang in origin. That would give you a stockier horse than most riding horses.

 

[Terre]

Hey, that's the answer....and I agree about the "cowgirl" outfits, she may as well wear nothing...haha. I could use CrossDresser and probably put something together for her....thanks Terre...this is a three-head project, but so far this has been very helpful

You're welcome.
Part of the reason that occurred to me is that when Jim buys clothing he almost always is getting it to convert to other figures. Especially his modded Posette.

 

[skylab]

I'm starting to think that way, shopping unisex so-to-speak. I know I have Dawn's jeans, but it wouldn't be very realistic to put her in a rodeo in a tank top...unless she especially likes the bruise, cut and injury risk.

And that explains the stockier appearance of the horses. Harry's default build is perfect for dressage, very elegant.

 

[skylab]

Found a fabric barrel, believe it or not on ShareCG....and a regular barrel that's probably low poly. Some metal barrels here.

Will check Rendo next.

 

[skylab]

Adam has a barrel prop here, a corroded barrel with editable textures, and a metallic barrel with two textures. That should give enough options to try, to see which looks best as a Poser OBJ import. The fabric barrel looks very close to what I was seeing in the pics, so I'll try it first.

 

[skylab]

Well, that gets a lot of the preliminary stuff done. I may get a nap, so that I can begin working with fresher eyes. Thanks everyone for all your help....you saved me time, and a bit of research on my own. We'll see how our ladies' Turn 'n Burn project turns out...have a good evening, and I'll see you all later

 

[Miss B]

Rest well Sky.

 

[Terre]

Seconded.

 

[Terre]

I'm starting to think that way, shopping unisex so-to-speak. I know I have Dawn's jeans, but it wouldn't be very realistic to put her in a rodeo in a tank top...unless she especially likes the bruise, cut and injury risk.

And that explains the stockier appearance of the horses. Harry's default build is perfect for dressage, very elegant.

Very elegant and not sturdy enough for work on the range. Working horses needed to be tough enough to gallop at full speed on uneven ground without breaking their legs.
In Western horse shows there is an event which is literally an obstacle course. I think it's called Western Trail or something like that. It's designed to test how surefooted the animal is among other things. ETA, found it: Trail (horse show) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Terre]

I'd forgotten the manner part but that does fit with my having been told as a child that an English style trained horse would freak out at some parts of the course.

 

[Terre]

Oh, another thing that occurred to me. That bit about the jumps being only 18" isn't due to not being able to "get into the jump position". Cowboys who actually use horses out on the range can jump quite a bit higher than just one and a half feet. It's due to velocity. The gates used are walk, trot, and lope and I think the person writing that article misunderstood the last. It doesn't mean gallop, it means canter. There is no way a horse going at a full gallop could navigate the "put it's hooves precisely between the round logs without even tapping one to make it roll" section at that speed. It would tap one or more. The logs are too close together.

 

[Terre]

Sky, if you get interested in extreme western horse poses then how about picking up a hanky from the ground at full gallop. I'm not kidding. That's a real thing. Cowboys have been doing that for over 150 years to show off their riding skills.
If you can find some of Frederic Remington's art he drew that at least once.
Found it. Right hand column, 7th pic. The Coeur d’Alene Art Auction

 

[Terre]

Ah, I found the origin. Georgian Trick Riders in American Wild West Shows, 1890s-1920s
Modern Western trick riders wear fancy fringed and colorful outfits. Sometimes the horse's tack is quite fancy to.
ETA: The image I'm actually thinking of was a cowboy not a cavalry officer. I think it was from the front instead of the side.

 

[Miss B]

Ohhhh, what is it they call the things they wear over their jeans that has the fringes . . . chaps? I think that's what I'm thinking of. They're leather if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Terre]

Yes.
The trick rider costumes have fringes also on the outer seams of the pants and shirts as well.
Think of the pics of the mountain men and such with fringed shirts and make them fancy colors with snow white fringes.

 

[Miss B]

AHA!! Now that you mention the shirts, I can picture them. I grew up on the old western TV shows and movies.

 

[Terre]

Gee, can you tell that my brain got stuck in "Let's remember things I saw during rodeos and horse shows back in the mid to late '70s during the NM State Fair" mode? LOL

 

[Terre]

AHA!! Now that you mention the shirts, I can picture them. I grew up on the old western TV shows and movies.

Now make the fringe white and the shirt bright red or blue or gold, one lady had hot pink. The pants and chaps are the same with the hat also being the same color.

 

[Miss B]

Yeah . . . I can picture that.

 

[Terre]

That'll get you pretty close to the costumes that trick riders wear out here.
Time to go get some sleep. See you tomorrow.