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Discussion in 'It's About the Art!' started by Chris, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. NapalmArsenal

    NapalmArsenal Dances with Bees Contributing Artist

    Great job and her expression is just delightful! =)
  2. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thank you, NA! ^^
  3. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Ohhhh, really liking Sora Croft Ken. Very nicely done. ;)
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  4. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thanks, Miss B! ^___^
  5. Chris

    Chris HW3D President Staff Member Co-Founder

    I agree. Looks awesome Ken. Wow!!
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  6. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thanks, Chris! It just shows how awesome Dawn and Sora really are. ^____^
  7. Art_of_Mind

    Art_of_Mind Engaged Contributing Artist

    They say if you want to get better you need to hang out with people better than you are..
    So, what are you doing later? Mind if I come and watch you work?
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  8. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Modeled a new sundress and hat for Dawn in 3DSMAX. The boots and bracelet are from my "Diamond Dress" for Dawn. Used Sora + my stylized body type + CatsEyes face morph and textures. Rendered in Poser with Superfly.

    I made 2 versions of it - a conforming and a semi-dynamic version (conforming on the upper body).

    Laced Sundress_1200.jpg
  9. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Ohhh, really liking that hat, and the dress is cute too. Are you going to be offering them for sale?
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  10. Pendraia

    Pendraia Seasoned Contributing Artist

    Lovely work Ken...
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  11. RobZhena

    RobZhena Eager

    Another fantastic image!
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  12. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thank you for the feedback! ^____^

    @Miss B In this render there were no maps, just simple colors. I was thinking on what kind of textures to make, and also sandals and some jewelry. Not sure if people would know how to use a semi-conforming dress in Poser. It conforms like any other outfit on the upper body, and is dynamic from the waist down (the hip). The fully conforming version poses poorly in some cases (as usual with skirts), and I could complement it with body handles like I did with the Office Lady outfit. It's a lot of things to consider. :)
  13. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    I have wondered how a dress like that would work in the Cloth Room. How do you set up the conforming top, if only the skirt is dynamic? Do you make the whole top soft decorated? If it were a seperate skirt and top, that would be easy. Most "hybrid" outfits I've seen are seperate pieces.

    Still it's nice, so think about it. You can always include a short tutorial to explain how to set it up for simming. ;)
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  14. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    It's actually a single piece outfit where everything under the waist is a single group - the hip. There are no groups for the legs. As is, it conforms and follows all upper body poses, but the hip won't follow the legs. To resolve that, select the dress hip and switch to the Cloth Room. When clothifying, Poser will automatically pick the currently selected group - the hip in this case. The rest will remain conforming. When you simulate, only the hip will be dynamic. It's really that simple. :)
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  15. Satira Capriccio

    Satira Capriccio Distinguished CV-BEE Contributing Artist

    Oh, so that's how a hybrid conforming/dynamic outfit works. You'd think by now I would have picked up on the fact that it's so simple :p
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  16. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Yes, it's THAT simple. :) But I hesitate to sell an outfit with this configuration, though. Even if I explain how it works, I don't know how many people are willing to delve into the Cloth Room. Or worse, they may think the whole thing is dynamic, since that's how it usually goes. That might limit sales. That's why I made 2 versions of the cape (conforming and dynamic) in my Superhero outfit for Dawn. I don't want that to become the breaking point with sales.
  17. Gadget Girl

    Gadget Girl Extraordinary Contributing Artist

    So first off, I love the hat. It's amazing. Actually I was just thinking about why don't I have a hat like that the other day.

    As for the question on hybrid outfits. I'd actually kind of like to see more of those. I have no idea or not if it would help or hurt sales, but I think there's a lot to be said for hybrid outfits. The only one I own in my runtime has never given me any trouble. Of course I'm a big fan of the cloth room. I think more and more people are getting into dynamics.

    I will say with the dynamic stuff I've released, I do have a full tutorial on how to use the cloth room, just in case it is someones first attempt at dynamics (or if they have decided to try again after a long time).
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  18. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Oh now that IS simple and easy, and makes sense when you think about it. Thanks for that tidbit Ken. ;) ~makes a note~
  19. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thanks, GG! It's amazing that Poser now natively supports all sorts of dynamics, not just cloth and hair. And it does that using industry standards, so I can run simulations in 3DSMAX, Carrara, Modo, and Poser using the same models. As a matter of fact, until 3DSMAX 9, both Poser and MAX were using the same (open source) cloth solver. I have done all sorts of hair and cloth animations using the Bullet engine in Poser with soft body dynamics, and it's really amazing. The only things missing are ragdoll bone physics and springs (Bullet supports both) to allow real-time conforming dynamics like they do in iClone and MMD. The current iClone version has switched from Bullet to NVidia PhysX, which can be hardware accelerated. The upcoming iClone 7 will support real-time physically correct PBR rendering (like Marmoset Toolbag), and it already supports Substance dynamic materials and DirectX 11 GPU accelerated real-time tessellation.

    It's easy to be carried away by the all the awesomeness, but the regular Poser user may not be using anything beyond the default Pose Room. Maybe not even the awesome Material Room visual nodes builder. That's what I keep in mind in my products. I have to see if I can compensate for the horrible conforming posing with body handles.
  20. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    That certainly makes sense Ken. I can understand your reasoning behind the 2 versions.

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