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The Anchorage, Part 3

Terre

Renowned
The vegetable gums are there as thickeners. Since my husband needs our cat to be grain free I'd rather see one of those on the list than wheat flour.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
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The vegetable gums are there as thickeners. Since my husband needs our cat to be grain free I'd rather see one of those on the list than wheat flour.

Yep. I try to avoid foods that have those (the grains) in them as well. My husband used to rash up all the time from the cat dander. Unrelated to that, I just got tired of feeding my poor kitties utter crap and started supplementing with meats and the like in their bowls, and eventually found that we could get some foods that didn't have the garbage in them. And you know, he has not rashed up in years from the kitties, ever since I made that change to their diets. There are still times we can't afford the higher cost foods for them, so those times I will return back to supplementing with meats for them. But he hasn't had a rash after holding/loving on a kitty in YEARS. It does make a difference. (And he still hasn't made the connection, either.)

Roof is done.:)

Yay!!! That's got to be a huge relief for you!
 

Satira Capriccio

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Yay on the roof!

What I find so frustrating is how companies change their formulas without any notice. Just suddenly, your cat won't touch a food or it makes her sick. Then you find out ingredients that didn't use to be in the food is now in the food.

Ultimately, I don't trust ANY supermarket brand anymore. Not after all the research I did a few years ago and discovered what utter crap some of these companies put in their food. Or ... how so many of them falsify the ingredient list.
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
Must be different down here cos no way can companies falsify their products...the authorities would have their guts for garters! And in a small market like ours, they would go under, toot sweet.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
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Must be different down here cos no way can companies falsify their products...the authorities would have their guts for garters! And in a small market like ours, they would go under, toot sweet.

Legally, they are not SUPPOSED to falsify it here, either! But many of them do, because they have learned thanks to our idiots in office, that money will buy them out of everything. Including legal repercussions.

What I find so frustrating is how companies change their formulas without any notice. Just suddenly, your cat won't touch a food or it makes her sick. Then you find out ingredients that didn't use to be in the food is now in the food.

Ultimately, I don't trust ANY supermarket brand anymore. Not after all the research I did a few years ago and discovered what utter crap some of these companies put in their food. Or ... how so many of them falsify the ingredient list.

You and me both!!
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
Legally, they are not SUPPOSED to falsify it here, either! But many of them do, because they have learned thanks to our idiots in office, that money will buy them out of everything. Including legal repercussions.

Wow! Our chaps would have you up on a charge if you tried that one, AND shut them down.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
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Wow! Our chaps would have you up on a charge if you tried that one, AND shut them down.

Yes, well this country is what it is. It could be a lot better. It used to be, up until about WWII when the big money started to come into things all over again.

I think you will find that most Americans are NOT represented by the people controlling the country. I try to remember that when I'm reading international news about other countries - that very often the actions and policies of the governments/people in charge are NOT representative of the common people who live there.

We also STILL don't have anything forcing companies to disclose the use of GMO ingredients, either. Still.
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Yay! The roofs up...
These are the ingredients in some of the highest recommended cat foods. Note: any list that includes Purina or any of the other popular "name brand" cat foods isn't to be trusted in my opinion.

Weruva Love Me Tender - Chicken & Duck in Gravy Recipe
Water Sufficient For Processing, Chicken, Tuna, Duck, Tapioca Starch, Sunflower Seed Oil, Tricalcium Phosphate, Xanthan Gum, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate
(Vitamin B1), Nicotinic Acid (Vitamin B3), Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Manganese Sulfate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement

Weruva is made in Thailand

Tiki Cat Koolina Luau (Chicken)
Shredded Chicken Breast, Chicken Consommé, Egg, Sunflower Seed Oil. Contains less than 1% of the following: Tricalcium phosphate, Tuna Fish Oil. Choline chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc sulfate, Ferrous sulfate, Thiamine mononitrate, Niacin, Calcium pantothenate, Vitamin A acetate, Potassium iodide, Manganese sulfate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Copper sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine hydrochloride, Folic acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

Tiki Cat also made in Thailand

Hound & Gatos Pet Foods (chicken)
Chicken, Water, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Xanthan Gum, Choline Chloride, Guar Gum,
Cassia Gum, Salt, Taurine, Magnesium Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Manganese
Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin
B1), Niacin Supplement (Vitamin B3), Vitamin E Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5),
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Biotin (Vitamin B7),
Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid (Vitamin B9)

Hound & Gatos is made in South Dakota (US)


Shoot. I have to go to work now. But I have a couple more reviews to look at when I get home.

Must be different down here cos no way can companies falsify their products...the authorities would have their guts for garters! And in a small market like ours, they would go under, toot sweet.
I was looking at the list of ingredients that Satira posted and thinking wow...there is a lot of added stuff in there which would worry me. I can't afford the more expensive brands of food here but what I buy looks and smells good and doesn't seem to be as heavily processed as those. My cat seems to enjoy eating them and no one so far has had rashes.

@Lorraine, it's the same here. Anyone cheating would be in strife big time!
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
Hi Pen :) I wonder if it's because we have smaller populations, perhaps it's easier to keep on top of it.

Seliah, there is a lot of corporate interference here but not with the food chain. That is sacrosanct, people and animals. What seems to be happening here is a lot of our coastline and farms being sold into foreign ownership when it shouldn't. That's gonna be the cause of the revolution here, that and unaffordable housing as a result.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Hi Pen :) I wonder if it's because we have smaller populations, perhaps it's easier to keep on top of it.

Seliah, there is a lot of corporate interference here but not with the food chain. That is sacrosanct, people and animals. What seems to be happening here is a lot of our coastline and farms being sold into foreign ownership when it shouldn't. That's gonna be the cause of the revolution here, that and unaffordable housing as a result.

Egh, yeah I've read a little bit about that situation. That's ugly business. >.<

Our cause is going to end up being the huge disparity between upper class 1%ers and basically.. EVERYONE else... when people can no longer put a roof over their children's heads, or food on the table... eventually something has got to give and someone will get just fed up enough somewhere... it's not going to be pretty.

On the other hand though, if we can actually manage to get Sanders elected, we might stand at least a fighting chance of seeing some improvement for a few years. If we can keep the DNC and other political groups from intentionally sabatoging him; they've been trying ever since he announced his intention to run. The Powers That Be at the Top are afraid of this man. As well they should be. It's about damn time they were confronted by something they can't buy their way out of!
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Hi Pen :) I wonder if it's because we have smaller populations, perhaps it's easier to keep on top of it.

Seliah, there is a lot of corporate interference here but not with the food chain. That is sacrosanct, people and animals. What seems to be happening here is a lot of our coastline and farms being sold into foreign ownership when it shouldn't. That's gonna be the cause of the revolution here, that and unaffordable housing as a result.
I think that might be part of it but I also think that both our countries are more Westminster style governments which also has an effect on this. We don't have lobby groups to the extent that American has and I don't think they are quite as powerful as in America.

We've had a lot of investment from overseas which people have complained about also...

Seliah...I hope that someone like Sanders gets in the alternative is just too scary.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
I think that might be part of it but I also think that both our countries are more Westminster style governments which also has an effect on this. We don't have lobby groups to the extent that American has and I don't think they are quite as powerful as in America.

We've had a lot of investment from overseas which people have complained about also...

Yeah, I think the style of governments might be the defining factor on that front. This isn't the first time the U.S. has had to fight with lobbyist interests... go back to the Industrial Revolution and all of that and you'll see it's a pattern here. It's a pattern I wish would just go away already.

Seliah...I hope that someone like Sanders gets in the alternative is just too scary.

You're telling me!!! The ONLY sane one out of the entire bunch is Sanders! Hillary's just as bad was what we currently have, and Trump is a narcissist who borders on being a sociopath as far as I'm concerned...
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
I do believe you are right there, Pen. Does having the different state governments cause problems for the federal government? We have one parliament which would be like your federal and then local body government. No state governments.

Seliah, for the safety of the rest of the planet and your country I truly hope a certain somebody with a bad hair dye job does not get in.

And now we will all go back to talking about cat food before we get in trouble ;)
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
It causes problems in that we are the most heavily governed country. My personal preference would be to reduce it to two levels of government but it isn't going to happen.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
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Contributing Artist
Does having the different state governments cause problems for the federal government? We have one parliament which would be like your federal and then local body government. No state governments.

Uhm... it can get a little finicky, but nothing huge, I think. There's times where the boundaries can get a little bit fuzzy (where does Federal jurisdiction end and where does State jurisdiction begin - and vice versa). But for the most part, that doesn't really cause any major problems. Mostly it means that some things that might be different from state to state...

But really, Pen nailed it. The main problem with it is there's just TOO dang much governmental hoo-haw and this results in WAY too freaking much red tape and hoops to jump through for stuff. Trying to appease both Federal and State level requirements on some things can be impossible or almost impossible. We've got multiple layers of government over here, and it's flippin' nuts. Federal, State, City, County.......

It causes problems in that we are the most heavily governed country. My personal preference would be to reduce it to two levels of government but it isn't going to happen.

You and me both. :)

And now we will all go back to talking about cat food before we get in trouble ;)

Yes, food is good. Speaking of food, I need to actually stop working on Nataani and go cook something... LOL. Or reheat something... we do still have some trout left from last night's supper... yes, this is me the weirdo wolf eating "dinner" at 245am. :roflmao:
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
I kinda thought that, Pen, from what my firecracker of a daughter has been saying. And she has now gone into depression because autumn has arrived ;). All she can think about is that winter is that much closer :laugh:
 
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