Oh well okay. But I have also been using an older set of Poser clogs more open in back than these . Mine look more like the wood sole clogs I used in school and they are just props. The toes do not need to bend and they parent to the feet or what I do is parent them to the toes so I can lift the foot up a but when posing for walking positions but I guess being open in the heel would take care of that better. Just a thought!