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Discussion in 'Show Me The Honey' started by Ken1171, May 3, 2016.

  1. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    This is VERY handy when you want to make just one part of a conforming outfit dynamic. However, most outfits don't have the groupings designed to allow you to do it. They have to be designed for it. For instance, I made my Dog Bandana a single group, so you can make it dynamic even when it's already conformed, just like the Laced Sundress and the Cheongsam dress.
     
  2. KageRyu

    KageRyu Rabid Art Monkey Contributing Artist

    I am not a big user of dynamics myself. I tend to avoid dynamic clothing and hair products.


    What about instead of rigging the bottom to match legs, since it's slit on the sides all the way up to the hip, rigging it front and back? Just a thought...
     
  3. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    @KageRyu Yeah, I know what you mean, but this doesn't go well if I want to make a real long Cheongsam dress. Like I said, the mere concept of such a complex rigging and it still won't pose naturally or realistically is quite discouraging. It's a lot of work and still lousy, mechanical posing.
     
  4. KageRyu

    KageRyu Rabid Art Monkey Contributing Artist

    I understand, I just dare to dream...
     
  5. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    So if I make it semi-dynamic, you wouldn't want it?
     
  6. KageRyu

    KageRyu Rabid Art Monkey Contributing Artist

    I have had a great deal of trouble trying to use dynamics - me and them just don't seem to get along - even in Lightwave. I might give it a try, but it makes me take pause.
     
  7. Hornet3d

    Hornet3d Distinguished

    Love the dress and the idea of having it semi-dynamic. Like a lot of people I avoided the cloth room like the plague for many years but once I started using the great dynamic cloths on sale here from Lully I use it a great deal now. I don't know what changed but with a lot of help from the people here it just sort of clicked for me although I still struggle with some of the settings. It certainly ups the game with some renders.
     
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  8. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Look at all the hype about dynamic cloth at DAZ. This is ancient history in Poser, way before SMS or eFrontier stepped in. I wish Poser features could cause such a hype in the community, like for example, how awesome it is to have the Bullet engine in Poser, but feature hypes seem to be something exclusive to DAZ. We have SO MUCH exciting stuff in Poser that people just take for granted, and SMS doesn't consider important enough to advertise about it, at least not with the energy DAZ puts into the smallest things they add to DS.

    Frankly, I am amazed with how realistic things look when we add dynamic cloth, comparing to the typical rigidity of conforming cloth. DAZ just got this into DS, and look how crazy they went with the hype. I am a Poser veteran and I still haven't tried every feature in it. I have done crazy things, like animating hair with Bullet engine softbody dynamics, and just a while ago, Nerd3D has showed us that we can even attach magnets to Bullet hard body physics with constrains, and make individual hair strands animate in real time with a fair amount of control. That was beyond cool! And yet, nobody uses or knows it's there, so Poser lives in obscurity, leading people to believe that DS is so much better in everything.

    Some food for thought. :)
     
  9. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dream Weaver Designs Contributing Artist

    Like a lot of folks I never could get to grips with the cloth room but now I find myself using it more and more. I still get mixed results but I keep trying as, when it works for me, it is soooooo much better for long drapery things/clothes. I have yet to pluck up the nerve to try dynamic hair and while the bullet softbody stuff looks amazing it also looks a bit daunting and I am not sure how much use it is in still images as every thing I have seen so far about is to do with animation.

    I would love to see more hybrid clothing and even hair items in the market.
     
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  10. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    By hybrid you mean semi-dynamic?
     
  11. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dream Weaver Designs Contributing Artist

    Yes I did. Seen them called both :)
     
  12. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Oh, good to know. "hybrid" clothing could potentially mean a zillion things. I like it, and I made 2 of my dresses that way, but they are both conforming and semi-dynamic. For this long one in particular, it would be only semi-dynamic, and then some people don't want to deal with dynamics. It's a dilemma.
     
  13. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dream Weaver Designs Contributing Artist

    Provided I have the $$$ I'd grab it regardless of the dynamic dilemma :D
     
  14. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Products in this market are particularly dirt cheap comparing how expensive 3D is out there. It's quite a contradiction.
     
  15. Dreamer

    Dreamer Dream Weaver Designs Contributing Artist

  16. Hornet3d

    Hornet3d Distinguished

    Certainly the few dynamic items that I purchased for V4 some years ago were advertised as hybrid in both cases, one a flowing dress and the other a trouser suit, both had the top as conforming and the bottom as dynamic.
     
  17. mininessie

    mininessie Dances with Bees Contributing Artist

    congrats in body type 5!
     
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  18. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

  19. RobZhena

    RobZhena Eager

    Instant purchase. Great work!
     
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  20. Ken1171

    Ken1171 Distinguished Contributing Artist

    Thank you for your kind support! ^___^
     

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