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I Just Wanted to Post an Image Thread

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Yes it will be. You can load just the ground with the river and add the rocks as you want them. Still have to check out the stuff I got for the terradome3 for ds.
 

Ken1171

Esteemed
Contributing Artist
I suppose it comes down to why you create renders Ken. I create renders because I enjoy the process of putting together the scene and having control over every aspect of it. I'm a control freak from way back. Typing text into a box and hoping it will come up with the image in your head that you're trying to create doesn't do it for me.

The idea is definitely not to replace 3D renders, but instead how to use it together with my renders, like for example, backgrounds. I am pretty good with integrating 2D backgrounds with 3D scenes, trying to make them seamless.

For a serious render I use IBL images on the dome which also factor into the lighting when using Iray in renders. Can ai do IBL yet?

I don't know, maybe it could. Basically any image can be used with IBL, so I think that yes, AI could be used to create IBL probes. I will give that a try. :)

This may have been mentioned and I missed it, but what program are you running the python script in?

Sublime Text is my Python editor, but since the AI is running on a virtual environment, I run it from a batch file in the Windows shell. I edit the batch file to change the prompts. The shell is running from the Python virtual environment. I tried configuring Sublime Text to work with virtual environments, but so far it didn't work. I have plans to create a GUI for the AI, so I can edit the parameters in a simpler way.
 

KageRyu

Lost Mad Soul
Contributing Artist
Sounds way above my depth. I have long ago let my abilities using shell and batch files go rusty... and some of my 3D skills are starting to follow with my workstation being down. I can't even remember how I wrote some of the erc for some of the Poser figures I had a hand in coding or modded for personal use.
Maybe I'll try to read up on it if/when I finish trying to recover this hard drive.
 

Ken1171

Esteemed
Contributing Artist
I get you. StableDiffusion AI is not for everyone at the moment, and mind you, it has just begun. This is all very new and recent. Their very first PT model just became public a few days ago - that's how new this thing is. It is the world's first free and open source AI of this magnitude, in defiance to the mega corporations (Google and nVidia) that currently own the most advanced AI available (Dall-E and Imagen), charging people to use it by the minute.

StableDiffusion aims to democratize AI to everyone, but at the moment mostly to IT enthusiasts like myself. However, the already offer web page access to this AI with a very simple interface, like you type a description just like in the Dall-E site. Not for me because it doesn't allow changing the parameters and tinkering with the code. Just in the last couple of days, I have already modified almost half the code to make it fit my pipeline. Another guy has already rewritten the main code to reduce the model load, so it can run even on GPUs with as little as 4GB VRAM, though slower. It's truly open source.

Here's my latest test, asking for a sandy Caribbean beach with coconut trees. Here we can see some image incoherences, like some floating trees. Dall-E had these same problems in the beginning, so it's just a matter of time until they fix it. I could definitely use these images as render backgrounds, and even as IBL probes as well. Though I would probably darken the lower halves so that the ground won't glow. :)

SandyBeach.jpg
 

RAMWolff

Wolff Playing with Beez!
Contributing Artist
LOVE all the new images. Too bad the AI stuff is just for folks with the mind to understand how to make all that work. HOPEFULLY there will be easy to understand versions coming out at some point. Be cool to have this plugged into Poser and then just create your background for your character renders. The ideas and outcomes would be endless!
 

Ken1171

Esteemed
Contributing Artist
LOVE all the new images. Too bad the AI stuff is just for folks with the mind to understand how to make all that work. HOPEFULLY there will be easy to understand versions coming out at some point.

Give it a try HERE, where they have the public access demo.

Be cool to have this plugged into Poser and then just create your background for your character renders. The ideas and outcomes would be endless!

Exactly! This could be an endless supply for background images to use in renders, and perhaps IBL probes as well.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Give it a try HERE, where they have the public access demo.
Well, I tried it and it gave me four 512x512 images, which is nice because they are totally different. I now want to try a single image, so changed that setting to 1, but if I want a large image, what setting do I change, the Guidance Scale? By default it's set to 7.5, but I'm not sure how much larger I would have to make that.

OK, well I tried a Guidance Scale at 15, and it still gave me a 512x512 image, but it's not exactly the same as the previous one so that is a setting to play with. I'll upload a few of them in a bit.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
OK, the keywords I used were: Sunset, Ocean, Waterfall.

Here are the group of 4 images I received the first go-round:

Sunset-Ocean-Waterfall-1.jpg


Sunset-Ocean-Waterfall-2.jpg


Sunset-Ocean-Waterfall-3.jpg


Sunset-Ocean-Waterfall-4.jpg


The first image looks strange because the "sunset" is lodged in the middle of the mountain side with the waterfall flowing over it.

The second image looks as though 2 separate images were composited together. Each would probably look good as a separate image.

Now the third image is really nice, though there's no waterfall, just water "falling" down from the waves. I'd use this as a background for sure.

The last image is more or less what I was envisioning when I chose the keywords. Also a background I would use in a render.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Then I decided to try a single image with the keywords Sunset, Ocean and Waterfall, and this is what I saw when it was finished processing.

Sunset-Ocean-Waterfall-5.jpg


Needless to say, I found this amusing with even more of the sunset showing in the middle of the mountain.

So I deleted the Sunset keyword, and this is what I saw with just the Ocean and Waterfall keywords.

Ocean-Waterfall-5B.jpg


Then I decided to play with 2 of the settings, and this is what I saw, and I like this the best.

Ocean-Waterfall-5C.jpg
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Lastly, I decided to do a single image with the Sunset keyword to see what I would get, and here it is.

Sunset.jpg


Not bad at all. So I decided to pull it into PS and see what would happen if I resized it, and here's what it looks like at 1024x1024 with no adjustments, just resizing.

Sunset-Large.jpg


Not that different, at least not that I can easily see.
 

RAMWolff

Wolff Playing with Beez!
Contributing Artist
Trying it now. Not sure why the images are stuck in such a low resolution. I put in Hairy Man and it gave me 4 images, mostly of just bearded male faces, there is one torso shot with a head and again, a beard but if you zoom in the eyes are kind of a mess! LOL
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
There are settings under the area where the image will show, and if you click on it, the first setting is for how many images you want, Change it to 1, and see what you get.
 

Ken1171

Esteemed
Contributing Artist
The "scale" parameter refers to how close to the description we want the image to be. The default is 7.5, which is a good value for most images. I guess you already know that, but this is not related to image size. I am not sure they let you change that on the demo site.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
The "scale" parameter refers to how close to the description we want the image to be. The default is 7.5, which is a good value for most images. I guess you already know that, but this is not related to image size. I am not sure they let you change that on the demo site.
No, I didn't see anything that allowed you to choose the image size, but that Sunset render I did enlarged worked well, so I'm assuming without going too much larger than the original isn't going to cause much of a difference in quality.
 

Ken1171

Esteemed
Contributing Artist
No, I didn't see anything that allowed you to choose the image size, but that Sunset render I did enlarged worked well, so I'm assuming without going too much larger than the original isn't going to cause much of a difference in quality.

I don't know about Photoshop, but Paintshop ships with AI upscaling that works really well. StableDiffusion also has its own AI upscaling, and part of the code to make use of it is included, but the PT models and some dependencies are missing. I think they need to be downloaded and installed separately, but I can do it in Paintshop, so I don't need it.

This is what I was saying way back at the beginning - the public web demo is very basic. From Python I can change any parameter, but from the web site, very few. This is all brand new, so they might improve this over time.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
Yes, I remember you mentioning that about PSP. Unfortunately my copy is very old, as I quit updating it around version 9, and only have version 7 installed, which I use for quick screenshots and such.

I looked through Photoshop, and didn't see anything about AI upscaling, and again, it's not the latest version, so it's possible newer versions of PS do have it.
 
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