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The Anchorage, Part 3

Mythocentric

Extraordinary
Thanks Rae. Today was a nice day even with the low temps, as it was bright and sunny, with only a slight breeze, so actually pleasant while I was out earlier. :)

Cor! I think yon Miss B has made off with our weather!* Cool, (very) wet and windy today on this side of the pond! :eek:

* Quietly slips chocolate out of sight behind cushions and assumes look of innocence! :whistling:
 

Pendraia

Sage
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Given you like chocolate Miss B I would have thought you would have tried it...definitely yummy on bread. Kids here love it...
 

Rae134

Renowned
CV-BEE
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If you like Hazelnuts too Miss B, then you'll love it (just don't look at the ingredients, they're not good for you). Its kinda like a poor mans version of a Ferrero Rocher in spread form.

Oh, and I don't like it on bread (don't like peanut butter on bread either) but its nice on toast (or on a spoon straight from the jar to mouth! :p)

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Satira Capriccio

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Well ... it IS chocolate. The hazelnuts were added decades ago because of a shortage of chocolate. So, it's more of a sweet treat than a "staple" like peanut butter.

I'd never even heard of Nutella until about 10 years or so ago. Wasn't something we had or knew about when I was a kid. Which is surprising since Oregon provides like 99% of the US hazelnuts/filberts. In fact, quite a bit of Springfield was covered in filbert orchards in the "olden" days.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
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Its kinda like a poor mans version of a Ferrero Rocher in spread form.
Ahhh, OK, that definitely helps. :) I just try to stay away from chocolate as best I can, since I'm allergic to it, and the caffeine in it keeps me awake, because I don't do any snacking until after dinner.

I'm not sure I'd like it on bread either, though between layers of a cake might be nice. ;)
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
You know, they have Nutella here in the States, but I've never been curious enough to try it.

It's heaven in a jar, Miss B. But I'm devastasted to learn it has palm oil in it which puts it on my hit list. My Bruin the Wonderdog sits will never be the same again. His mum always left me a giant jar to...see next quote

(or on a spoon straight from the jar to mouth! :p)

...eat straight out of the jar with a spoon! No bread required! Super sad face :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 

Satira Capriccio

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So many things have palm oil in it. I've tried so many natural and organic peanut butters in attempt to avoid hydrogenated oils, but ended up throwing away every single jar. Either I didn't like the taste, or it involved far too much stirring every single time, and I'd still end up with oily peanut butter. I finally gave up and just buy Skippy Natural from amazon which has both sugar and palm oil. But I love the taste, and it doesn't require stirring every time I open the jar. Of course ... it's really debatable just how "natural" it is.

Then again ... peanuts, sugar, palm oil, and salt are natural ingredients. And I can even pronounce them all. I wish companies would cut back or even quit adding sugar and salt to their products. It's not that difficult to add a wee bit of sugar or a pinch of salt. Let me determine how sweet or salty something should be.
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
I don't denounce palm oil because of its fat content but because of the devastation it's causing where the habitat of animals is cleared to grow it. That's a nono in my book. So, no Nutella :(
 

Satira Capriccio

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To be honest, I hadn't even thought about the fat content of palm oil. It was the palm oil in Skippy's Natural peanut butter that led me to trying to find a different peanut butter.

Unfortunately, palm oil is in like about half the products you find in the grocery store, including lip stick, shampoo, detergent, soap, as well as chocolate, ice cream, bread, pizza dough ... and the list goes on :(

Skippy/Unilever is supposedly an RSPO* Member, which means they SHOULD be moving toward using sustainably grown palm oil. Unfortunately, because it's expensive to change labels and the FDA apparently hasn't yet (and probably never will under Trump) establish criteria for labeling food as using sustainably grown palm oil ... there aren't a lot of companies that are labeling their products as RSPO.

Apparently ... any of these ingredients in a product is actually palm oil
Vegetable Oil, Vegetable Fat, Palm Kernel, Palm Kernel Oil, Palm Fruit Oil, Palmate, Palmitate, Palmolein, Glyceryl, Stearate, Stearic Acid, Elaeis Guineensis, Palmitic Acid, Palm Stearine, Palmitoyl Oxostearamide, Palmitoyl Tetrapeptide-3, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Kernelate, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Lauryl Lactylate/Sulphate, Hyrated Palm Glycerides, Etyl Palmitate, Octyl Palmitate, Palmityl Alcohol​

*RSPO is the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil which certifies more than 20 percent of the global palm oil supply.
Certification means the oil is SUPPOSED to be produced in ways that conserve natural resources and protect forests and rivers.
 

Terre

Renowned
One note: Palm Kernel oil is from the seed instead of the fruit but otherwise, yes, it's Palm oil. The difference isn't important to most people but to a tiny number like me it's critical. One of the naturally occurring chemicals in the seed is a would-be toxin the plant intends as a defense against the seed getting eaten. To the vast majority of humans (including my husband) this molecule is inert and totally harmless. To me it's a neurotoxin.
In the US most cooking oils labeled Vegetable Oil are still soybean. They used to be corn. Palm is probably next. I have to buy safflower oil for us because both of us are soy intolerant.
 

Terre

Renowned
As far as peanut butter goes something HAS to be added to it if it's not going to separate into paste and oil. That's why all "natural" ones either have some salt/sugar or must be stirred.
ETA: I wonder if buying one without either and then adding a bit yourself (to taste) might work the same way and be worth the effort.
 
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