Dawn Questions

[NG Artplay]

I'm very slowly making my first outfit for Dawn. I'm starting in Poser 11 and had made some textures for my outfit in Substance Painter. These work great for Iray but they are not creating very good textures for SuperFly. I can't see where there are any special SF only nodes. Pretty much all looks like FireFly setup to me. Am I missing something?

I will make the Daz Studio conversion when I'm done with Poser.

I'm also having an issue with Dawn rendering black in SuperFly. Any suggestions?

It's been over a year since I made any clothes so I'm really rusty. I've had this modeled for 3-1/2 months.

 

[Glitterati3D]

Sorry, no help with Substance Painter.

But, I can help with Dawn rendering black in Superfly.

Download EZSkin3 here: CGbytes - Store - EZSkin-3

 

[Miss B]

Hey NGA, are you asking about SuperFly only nodes in Substance Painter, or in Poser 11?

I'm not familiar with Substance Painter, but in Poser11/PoserPro11, go into the Advanced tab of the Material room, right-click anywhere in the empty area to the right of the PoserSurface palette, and choose New > Root and you'll see 2 new Root nodes. One is PhysicalSurface, but I don't think you would use that for clothing. I've played with it while trying to create some nice marble shaders.

The other new Root node is CyclesSurface, and that's probably the one you want to look at.

Just to be clear, you can leave the PoserSurface palette and attached nodes for use with FireFly renders, and have the CyclesSurface palette with attached nodes for use with SuperFly renders. You would just need to select the FireFly Root checkbox at the top of the PoserSurface palette, and then select the SuperFly Root checkbox at the top of the CyclesSurface palette. (See the screenshot below).

Then you would select the Surface node of the CylesSurface palette to attach a node, and you will see a Cycles group below the usual FireFly nodes, and if you expand that, you'll see all the SuperFly nodes you could possibly want. (Also see the screenshot below).

Hope that helps.

 

[NG Artplay]

Thank you both for such quick answers. Both of these are new to me so will have to investigate them per your instructions. More new stuff to learn, lol.

Oops, forgot, was asking about SF nodes in Poser11 so your answer was what I needed Miss Bl

 

[Miss B]

Glad to have been of help.

 

[3WC]

I know nothing about your questions, but wanted to say, "cool outfit!"

 

[Dakorillon (IMArts)]

What he said

 

[NG Artplay]

Thanks for the compliment I have normal maps for this outfit so hopefully the textures will look good when it's done. I attached a quick pic of the bracer in Substance Painter.

 

[Miss B]

That's looking good NGA.

 

[NG Artplay]

Hi Miss B, I played with the cycles but I can't get it to respect my uv maps. Shaders work fine. Do you know of any easy to understand tutorials for using Cycles?

 

[Dakorillon (IMArts)]

That bracer is WOW!

 

[Miss B]

Hi Miss B, I played with the cycles but I can't get it to respect my uv maps. Shaders work fine. Do you know of any easy to understand tutorials for using Cycles?

I wish I could say yes, but unfortunately, I'm still learning Cycles and SuperFly.

Have you been over to the Smith Micro Poser Forum at all? I ask because there are a lot of very knowledge folks over there. You should consider posting your image and explaining your problem, and see if someone over there knows how to use UV mapped textures with Cycles.

 

[David]

This might help. It helped me in working with 3dCoat PBR materials which I ended up using in Poser.

 

[Pendraia]

Cool outfit NG!

 

[NG Artplay]

Aw, thank you everyone and appreciate the suggestion of the Smith Micro forum and David's link to the video. Love this community.

 

[Gadget Girl]

Just wanted to say beautiful outfit, and I love the detail on the bracer. I envy your skill on both the modeling and the texturing. I'm working on my own (but don't worry, very different) outfit that includes a bracer, and still figuring out how I want to texture it and how much detail to put in the mesh, and how much into the texture (mine is meant to be metal, not leather).

 

[NG Artplay]

Thank you Gadget Girl, don't ever worry about what other people are making. We all have different styles and our creations end up being our own unique looks. Nothing would get made if artists didn't want to make what someone has already made because it's all been made before. If you want to make a leather texture for yours, please do. I'd be happy to see what you do with yours as you move along.

David, I found the export information in the tutorial interesting. My textures look better in SuperFly after I applied some of the gamma settings.

I've actually gotten the waist wrap completely done for Poser. First clothing piece morphed, rigged with one texture. Just need to keep plugging away on this project.

 

[RobZhena]

Hey NGA, are you asking about SuperFly only nodes in Substance Painter, or in Poser 11?

I'm not familiar with Substance Painter, but in Poser11/PoserPro11, go into the Advanced tab of the Material room, right-click anywhere in the empty area to the right of the PoserSurface palette, and choose New > Root and you'll see 2 new Root nodes. One is PhysicalSurface, but I don't think you would use that for clothing. I've played with it while trying to create some nice marble shaders.

The other new Root node is CyclesSurface, and that's probably the one you want to look at.

Just to be clear, you can leave the PoserSurface palette and attached nodes for use with FireFly renders, and have the CyclesSurface palette with attached nodes for use with SuperFly renders. You would just need to select the FireFly Root checkbox at the top of the PoserSurface palette, and then select the SuperFly Root checkbox at the top of the CyclesSurface palette. (See the screenshot below).

Then you would select the Surface node of the CylesSurface palette to attach a node, and you will see a Cycles group below the usual FireFly nodes, and if you expand that, you'll see all the SuperFly nodes you could possibly want. (Also see the screenshot below).

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Hope that helps.

And this is why I don't use Superfly!

 

[NG Artplay]

Yeah, I'm not big on having to learn new stuff especially when it seems that it all gets thrown at me at the same time. For me it was being comfortable at RDNA then it got sold without warning and Poser 11 was new and now I had to learn Daz Studio and then ZBrush and then Substance Painter. I can't keep up...I'm too old, lol.

 

[Miss B]

And this is why I don't use Superfly!

This is why it's taking me a long time to learn it. I'll probably get comfortable with it when the next version of Poser comes out . . . or maybe not. SuperFly is based on Blender's Cycles, which I have used some, but still not the same, as I'm more apt to use the Cycles render engine in Blender, rather than actually setting up a Cycles shader since I don't, as a rule, do final renders in Blender.