Glitterati3D
Dances with Bees
And none of us shops at Turbosquid.
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Poser on borrowed time?
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And none of us shops at Turbosquid.
Blender bridges were discussed over at the DAZ Forums in the Blender ongoing thread. The problem with that is that Blender is constantly updating the software so the Bridge would have to be built in house and put in as part of the internal code so it all gets updated along with the program. Imagine some nice person building a bridge and then for every point upgrade being asked to update the bridge because the broke. That would be pretty off putting after a while.
StudioMartillo
Engaged
Except for the Island I just bought for McGyver,s CatSki project, the stuff I'm buying at DAZ now is those old Tunimals. They weren't very interesting to me back when, but now they make me laugh. When I have a good collection of them then the scenes will start to happen. Stories most likely 'cause that's the way I think.
Semicharm
Eager
That's comparing apples and oranges though. Turbo squid models are generally for redistribution in commercial products, where as the Daz prices you quoted are for renders only. You'd have to drop a cold $2,500 at Daz to get into commercial developer license club. Other vendors there are in the same ballpark.
eclark1894
Visionary
DAZ taking over a company and then laying off Syyd? That's just par for the course. Isn't that pretty much the same thing they did to both Chris and Dan Farr?
Hornet3d
Wise
I don't think anyone suggested that $60 for the likes of Urban Sprawl 3 is not fair recompense for the work put it but how many can afford to spend that amount ? The sale price could be a different story, I purchased Urban Sprawl 2 on sale at $24.95. The full price then was $49.99 and that was in 2009 so inflation alone could justify the Urban Sprawl 3 price. With this in mind I could be very interested in Urban Sprawl 3 at the sale price accept but for the fact US2 works in Poser and US3 does not. I am not paying $30 for something I have to do a lot of work for it to be Poser compatible, particularly when I have US2 that already is.
It really is down the the vendor but if you cut out a large chunk of potential customers a reduction in profits has to be seen as a possible out come.
eclark1894
Visionary
DAZ and Poser are both marketed primarily towards the hobby market. So you're not going to get a hobbyiest to pay the same for a set as you would someone in an industry.
Some of us do, for things we can't get through the other vendors. But not from the $500 bin, that's for sure.
Oh I've purchased items over the years at Turbosquid, though most of what I got from them were freebies or under $10. Then again, I don't think you would find a large scene like the ones Stonemason and Jack create at a site like Turbosquid. Of course, I've never looked for anything there but small props, so I'm not totally sure of everything they offer.
I used to buy all Stonemason's stuff as soon as it came out. Such detail and usefulness!
But...
a) he went Studio-only, which means I have to convert stuff, which is a pain unless I really need something he's made...
and b) his stuff is too expensive now.
EXACTLY!
Their stuff is stupid expensive, and despite what they may say, they sell things they... well, they probably shouldn't be selling. Intellectual property, etc.
But every once in a while I need some obscure part or piece that I can't currently find elsewhere or make myself, so I have to go there.
Exactly why I stopped buying his, and Jack Tomalin's, products.
Semicharm
Eager
As for the direction things are heading in, I generally agree. Both SM and Daz have made, and continue to make a number of missteps that are hurting them rather than helping. Daz users considered posable toes and the like a revelation, SM figures already had those for almost a decade. Daz's has better rigging though. SM had to begrudgingly adopt weightmapped figures after dragging their feet for years. They also should contract 3rd party artists for their bundled figures, as their own lately seem half-baked and barely get any attention from SM or anyone else. Daz's Genesis releases seem more like a refresh or refinish than truly new. I'm guessing that DS5 keeps taking longer than planed, but expanding their current line that people have already barely invested in would be better than pushing yet another "new" Genesis over it and putting the older items on a fire sale. :/ Just look at the other Poser/DS marketplace. The their lineup for Daz figures is still mostly V4/M4 and Genesis 2.
But what would I know. I'm just a user who's been putzing around the Poserverse for over a decade.
But what would I know. I'm just a user who's been putzing around the Poserverse for over a decade.
Very true. I think the most expensive thing I ever bought there was an aluminum attache case (and I think also the cash I placed in it) for a still life render I did for an old render challenge at RDNA years ago. I have it posted somewhere here on the forum, but don't recall exactly where. Probably in the I Just Wanted To Post An Image thread.
eclark1894
Visionary
I'm not. At worst, it simply means Poser will change ownership.
eclark1894
Visionary
Oh now freshly made anything is always better than pre-packaged.
Fair enough. I do hope you're right, Earl.
It's just that when someone like Chris says he's deeply concerned, I'm deeply concerned. But none of us knows the future. Maybe if SM were to sell Poser to a company that will properly develop and support it and promote it will be the best thing ever to happen. Who knows.