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Is Dawn "older" than V4?

Ken1171

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And it seems HW is primarily using Poser for their base. It's the Poser packs that come out first, and then later get converted to DS, or they don't depending on the vendor. Poser still comes first here.

HW creates everything for DS first, and only then convert them to Poser. Whether or not content for one or the other version sells more, that is a different story, and we have no control over it.

Edited to say: Ken is doing great shapes with Dawn!

Thanks, I have been trying to make a wide variety of body shapes for Dawn, concentrating on the types that nobody else has done until now.
 

sapat

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Thanks, I have been trying to make a wide variety of body shapes for Dawn, concentrating on the types that nobody else has done until now.

This is the first time I've seen Dawn in another light. She needs some different body shapes and also faces. Maybe if you have any interest and/or time, you might consider making a pack of head/body morphs. It would give Dawn a chance not to look the same all the time.
 

Ken1171

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This is the first time I've seen Dawn in another light. She needs some different body shapes and also faces. Maybe if you have any interest and/or time, you might consider making a pack of head/body morphs. It would give Dawn a chance not to look the same all the time.

I already made 2 body + face characters for Dawn. Now I have concentrated more on bodies, because there are already many faces at HW and Rendo. Of course, not as many as we have for V4, but in my personal gallery, I wanted more body variety.
 

sapat

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I already made 2 body + face characters for Dawn. Now I have concentrated more on bodies, because there are already many faces at HW and Rendo. Of course, not as many as we have for V4, but in my personal gallery, I wanted more body variety.
I haven't been around here very long so haven't really gone through the store. Good to know what's out there though!
 

Satira Capriccio

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Dawn Special Edition was released after SR2. Dawn SE includes 3 new Special Edition face morphs, as well as refinements to the body. HiveWire also released Sora for Dawn, which is an anime character with a curvier body and longer legs. Her face is more delicate than Dawn's with larger eyes. Chris also has an ethnic pack in the works, which I'm eagerly awaiting.

I have a few characters in the HiveWire store that are rather different from the default Dawn. Most were created with the morphs in Dawn's Base, Starter, and Head and Body morphs. Add in Paul's Head Resource Kit, Dawn's Creature Head Morphs, as well as Sora, and you can get a lot of variation in Dawn. It all depends on how far from the default Dawn a person wants to go.
 

Miss B

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It always amazes me how unique you make your characters Satira. I've tried, but never seem to get very far. One of these days I really need to try more options, and see what I can come up with.
 

Rae134

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So this is Dawn SE - 1st is default Dawn, then the SE faces in order from 1-3 and last Sora for comparison
DSE Sora.jpg

Edited to add: I only rendered it to 50%, but you get the idea of the subtle changes.
 

Rae134

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And just the first 5 characters I have in my runtime for Dawn.
Alexis (HW), Amelia (Rendo), Aniya (Rendo), Elisa (HW) and Birkitta (HW)
Some Dawn Shapes.jpg
 

Miss B

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Nicely done Rae, and that second render really shows off her versatility as far as age goes.
 

Rae134

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These 1st 2 are from HW (Liliana & Monica) and I think I got the last three shapes from the forum here somewhere (the Skin is Dawn SE except for the dark one which I think is from Sam).
Some Dawn Shapes2.jpg
 

Janet

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Just thought I would throw this out there as I have degree in Psych and know it was grounded in science. I learned a lot from it too!
 

sapat

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Dawn Special Edition was released after SR2. Dawn SE includes 3 new Special Edition face morphs, as well as refinements to the body. HiveWire also released Sora for Dawn, which is an anime character with a curvier body and longer legs. Her face is more delicate than Dawn's with larger eyes. Chris also has an ethnic pack in the works, which I'm eagerly awaiting.
I have a few characters in the HiveWire store that are rather different from the default Dawn. Most were created with the morphs in Dawn's Base, Starter, and Head and Body morphs. Add in Paul's Head Resource Kit, Dawn's Creature Head Morphs, as well as Sora, and you can get a lot of variation in Dawn. It all depends on how far from the default Dawn a person wants to go.
I love Dierdra!! Probably because she looks like a big departure from the usual Dawn. Overall her entire face is great.
I also like Sora. She has the look of the work of Tempesta3D. Don't know if she is, but I like her too. A lot of it has to do with completely changing Dawn's mouth.
Just saw the creature pack. The 2 that I like are the bug eyed bird and the lizard. A lot of the rest of them still have Dawn's lips.
 
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sapat

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And just the first 5 characters I have in my runtime for Dawn.
Alexis (HW), Amelia (Rendo), Aniya (Rendo), Elisa (HW) and Birkitta (HW)
View attachment 41590
I'm a big fan of anyone who can get rid of Dawn's lips and give her a completely different look. One the 2nd set of girls, I like the one in the middle and the one at the back (Asian). Their mouths are most appealing to me.
On the first image, I like the girl with the bright red lips. Maybe her name is Elisa? I like her.
 

Miss B

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Yes well, I can't since I never updated my DS 4 past DS 4.0, and I'm not that good at converting in any case.
 

Ken1171

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I like Amelia, and I think it was the only DS character I have ever converted to Poser. It's always easier to convert from DS to Poser, due to Poser's non-unimesh incompatibilities.
 

Rae134

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I'm a big fan of anyone who can get rid of Dawn's lips and give her a completely different look. One the 2nd set of girls, I like the one in the middle and the one at the back (Asian). Their mouths are most appealing to me.
On the first image, I like the girl with the bright red lips. Maybe her name is Elisa? I like her.
Yes the second last one in the first image is Elisa, I use her "lips fix" morph by its self a lot (looks a bit different).
I found the link to where I got the last 3 girls in the 2nd image - REC freebies (about halfway down)
 
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