Does Mark's tool preserve the OBJ integrity? Or does it break each group into a split geometry like Poser does?
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Discussion about Poser Rigging and DS Rigging etc
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Does Mark's tool preserve the OBJ integrity? Or does it break each group into a split geometry like Poser does?
Glitterati3D
Dances with Bees
I do not know how to answer that, Ken, as I have never understood this complaint.
daywalker03
Eager
The couple of tutorials I've seen on rigging dresses and skirts have either used custom rigging templates or involved creating custom rigging with added bones and grouping portions of the dress/skirt with the Geometry Editor. Give me a day or so to locate something more for you.
That is actually the reason why it's not a good idea to let Poser group the model. The OBJ it outputs is no longer the same you have created. It's the same thing that happens if I try to group the models in 3DSMAX.
Oh thanks! I know how to rig a skirt with TriAx, but apparently not with general weights used in G3F and G8F. They have changed the rigging system and what I used to do with TriAx no longer works with general weights.
My biggest question is what's with the 2 joints per group on the thighs, and why editing one rotation ruins the work already done on the others. I know it's a single map, but I can't seem to get all 3 thigh rotations to work with it. For example, when I finish Bend and Side-Side, editing for Twist ruins the other 2. There must be a catch.
eclark1894
Visionary
BOUGHT IT!
eclark1894
Visionary
Here's the issue then. I can assign the vertices to the correct group in Blender. Or Poser. I'm not trying to rig it yet, I just want to get the vertices into their correct grouping. So when I do finally rig the clothing and it does get sliced up by Poser, I can switch it out with a WHOLE object that is already correctly grouped.
Glitterati3D
Dances with Bees
You will be pleased, I'm sure. I grouped exactly one piece of clothing years ago in the modeler. Then, ran to purchase AGE.
Now, his instructions are a bit convoluted, so let me make it easy for you:
1. Load Dusk's Object file as Load Source Figure
2. Load your clothing as Load Clothing Object
3. In the Source Figure Groups box, at the bottom, click on None first, then click on the body part you need (upper, lower, etc.)
4. Scroll carefully through the Source Figure Groups checking and unchecking what you need. The groups are based on the DAZ generation 4 figures, so the pelvis and new Dawn/Dusk groups will have to be manually checked off. V4/M4 only have one neck, one abdomen, etc. Be sure to check Dusk/Dawn's 2nd group in this list IF you need it in your groups.
5. Click the Transfer Groups button
6. Click on the Auto Group2 button
7. File>Save Object
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eclark1894
Visionary
Maybe I'm missing something. I thought grouping was when you assign vertices to a vertex group in the mesh. Blender will do this without breaking up the mesh. I know the Set up Room breaks up the mesh, but I thought this was because it also has to assign that group to follow specific bones.
StudioMartillo
Engaged
Polys
Yes, I have mentioned somewhere above that Modo and Blender are the only 2 programs I know of that preserve the OBJ in one piece.
