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Depression or celebrating life?

Discussion in 'The Meadow' started by Lyne, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Rowan54

    Rowan54 Dragon Queen Contributing Artist

    Yeah, what IS up with that? I could have used a figure when I was in high school....
  2. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Oh I didn't gain all 50 pounds when menopause hit. I think it was only about 10 pounds at the time. It was the depression that brought on the extra pounds before I could lose the first 10.
  3. Satira Capriccio

    Satira Capriccio Distinguished CV-BEE Contributing Artist

    Estrogen hormones help regulate metabolism and body weight. Decrease those hormones and ... boom. Add in other aging changes and medications and some of us blow up like Violet Beauregarde.
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  4. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Yes, I've always been told some medications will make you gain weight, though I wasn't on "meds" at that point, but I'm sure I couldn't start losing any weight once I was taking them . . . well not 'til this year I've lost 6 lbs since the summer, and I told my trainer this morning at the gym I'm hoping I can lose another 5 or 6 lbs by next summer. My Internist keeps telling me it's best to lose weight slowly, as then there's less of a chance of gaining it back. We shall see.
  5. Satira Capriccio

    Satira Capriccio Distinguished CV-BEE Contributing Artist

    The first thing I do when prescribed a medication is to check the side effects. Amazing just how many have a side effect of weight gain :( The worst for me were the medications prescribed when I was having daily headaches. Then too, before I was prescribed those, I treated the headaches and migraines by drinking a pot or two of hot tea when I got home. By itself, the hot tea would have been fine, but I can't drink tea unsweetened.

    My body even had the nerve to gain weight the second time my thyroid was overactive.
  6. Miss B

    Miss B Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time CV-BEE

    Now you've got me thinking I better recheck the side effects of the 3 meds I take regularly. Hmmmmm, I wonder if I should be checking the nutrients I take on a daily basis as well.
  7. mrsparky

    mrsparky Member

    It's hard to get through to an adult with their decades of negative reinforcement.

    Yea I know that one, I've got a couple of friends who like to put me down.
    Yet I know I'm not the one with the "problem" it's them.

    One needs to make me look dumb to reflect others away from their lack of success.
    The other because they have no confidence in themselves.

    However I also find karma isn't just an eastern concept, other people will notice and will often react.
    For example, if you're in a cafe and you get a very loud public critique about the way, or what your eating.
    The waitress might get a little clumsy, your friend gets wet and you get a smile :)

    Yet I don't give up on them, I know - like you - the more crud someone gets the more stronger they are.
    You can cope with stuff they'd never be able to. Usually without even thinking about it.

    Plus you have the ultimate sanction. You can ask the question "does this person add value to my life".
    If you choose no, then (sometimes) you can cut that person out of your existence.
    Yes it's not always easy to do, but when they are sitting alone crying into their beer, you'll be the one enjoying life.
  8. mininessie

    mininessie Dances with Bees Contributing Artist

    i just seen this...sorry i have not time to read all the posts...but what i have seen in my life is that most if not all the artists ,had depression in some moments of their life...i am one (even if not a true artist) that went there too! and some days it came back easily.
    I think artist are more sensible to certain events in life...and this lead us to feel depressed...mostly when the people around donĀ“t give the same importance to the things...so one feels the solitude.
    Big hugs from me to all the fellows here that feel down! :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
  9. Hornet3d

    Hornet3d Distinguished

    The strange thing is I regard myself as being very lucky but I still have periods of feeling very down and I cannot explain why. I was lucky enough to have had a career when final salary pensions were common and so I have retired on a reasonable income. The pension hits snags when the company went bust and there was a argument how the assets were to be split up so I was on a reduced pension for what was expected to be two years, it turned out to be ten. It has been resolved now I have back pay that is a tidy sum after 10 years. As 3D art has supported me through those 10 years I decided to splash out and buy my dream computer. Do I feel lucky, you bet, has it stopped me having down days, no, will it in the future no. It will help me to cope with those times but it won't stop them and to a degree it makes it worse as I feel so guilty. On days that I am feeling depressed I still feel I am in a lucky position as I am retired, and in the next week my soul mate (who I was luck enough to be married to) will also retire, so I have no right to feel depressed and so I feel guilty. Of course this just makes the depression worse, that and the fact I cannot explain to myself why I feel depressed let alone explain it to anyone else. Not that I would try and explain as I would feel too ashamed to admit to many that someone in my position is depressed.
  10. Lyne

    Lyne Dances with Bees HW Honey Bear

    @Hornet3d EVERYONE has a right to their feelings! :grouphug:

    right now, I had a small good thing happen...and though very small, it's lifted my spirits a LOT... so every drop of good, big or small, is so important and precious! So feel good about the good, but allow that everyone can feel down too, right?!
  11. mrsparky

    mrsparky Member

    Lyne - but allow that everyone can feel down too, right?!

    Darn right and sometimes we need that down to really appreciate the up's.

    mininessie - scientists have long known that's a clear link between creativity and mental health.

    I forget which impressionist artist it was but in one painting the artist depicted a sky in a lurid blue/purple colour range.
    A colour range that would be near impossible to perceive unless the artist was freely hallucinating, yet the artist never took drugs.

    Hornet3d - Don't feel guilty about it, this can - and does - happen to anyone and at anytime.
    It's not something we have any control over either.

    For example, take this weekend, a friend and I got lost while looking for a new supermarket.
    Nothing stressy, indeed my friend said it was funny that two usually sensible people would make that kinda mistake.
    If anything we're the crisis kings, need your plumbing fixed with a paperclip at 4.20am, thats us.
    We'll even re-paint your house as a free bonus.

    We passed a small park and said .."I remember walking through there as a kid onto the way to the sweet (candy) shop".
    My friend simply replied "well it's a Saturday, wanna get some sweets".

    BAM! Within seconds a total wave of conflicting emotions, both good and bad.
    Physically felt like someone had punched me in the stomach and was going to puke.
    It threw me so much, I thought we'd had a car accident (we hadn't)
    My friend said I went grey and and couldn't stop shaking.
    Then as quickly as it came, it went.
  12. mininessie

    mininessie Dances with Bees Contributing Artist

    mrsparky i think you talk about Van Gogh...one of my favourites ever!
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  13. Desertsilver

    Desertsilver Engaged

    My father was an Md, and noted that the Doctor Van Gogh painted ( Dr. Gachet) was one of the first to proscribe digitalis. Van Gogh even paints him with foxgloves , which are the flower digitalis comes from. Some of the symptoms of overdosing of digitalis are visual distortion in colors and seeing halos and such around light sources--- thus---Starry night.
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  14. Desertsilver

    Desertsilver Engaged

    Sending some digital joy and light on this Hallowe'en night to you all on this thread: zz halloween.jpg 43586576_2293374107357667_3587829453591412736_n.jpg [A
    I love vintage cards!
  15. Desertsilver

    Desertsilver Engaged

    I hope all our California friends are safe from the fires and smoke today!
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  16. Dakorillon (IMArts)

    Dakorillon (IMArts) Extraordinary Contributing Artist

    Had a doctor appointment day before yesterday. Was officially diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and 2 types of Arthritis. While this could have really put me in a down mood, it actually helped to know that some (most) of the issues that I've had problems with over the years are actual problems and they are actually treatable. So, going to be starting treatment for the Fibro soon. As for the Arthritis, I'm going to go at that herbally, as that is my preferred method to try first. But, one of the things that he brought out was that depression and anxiety are often some of the signs of Fibro, so, again, treating the one might help the others. Little glimmers of hope.
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  17. mininessie

    mininessie Dances with Bees Contributing Artist

    I hope so Desertsilver

    Dakorillon (IMArts) sorry to hear that sweetie , i know is hard to deal with it ,my best wishes for you, hope the treatment helps you !
  18. Desertsilver

    Desertsilver Engaged

    So sorry to hear that, Dakorillon. I do have a couple of friends who were able to manage their arthritis with diet. They both went off grains entirely, and cut to almost no sugar ( including honey and the fake stuff) sticking to a mostly paleo diet. it might be worth a try. ( Oh, and lots of fermented foods- keifer, kombucha and kimchee to restore gut biome)
  19. Hornet3d

    Hornet3d Distinguished

    Sorry to hear about the problems but it is good that you can take some comfort from the fact you have a diagnosis. My Father in law suffers badly with arthritis but that have been able to keep it under control in the last few years. Lets hope you are able to combat both in the coming weeks.
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  20. carmen indorato

    carmen indorato Extraordinary

    Yeah.....I have read many of the diseases that ail us are due in part or in whole by life style and inflammation. and inflammation is many time caused by what we ingest. Grains like wheat which have been bio engineered by stupid scientists trying to reinvent the dietary wheel are causing many such problems which have gotten so bad some counties refuse to import our wheat. Italy for instance has been having more and more intestinal problems like celiac disease and have gone to other grains to avoid the increasing problem. I tried for a year but non wheat pasta and non wheat bread worse sucks worse and because those other grains having a higher glycemic value are way more fattening so I went back to wheat. I read sugar has th same issue in increasing inflammation so I went to blue agave which has the lowest glycemic value of any natural sweetener.
    Problem is at a certain age you get so hooked on your ingestion habits it gets really hard eliminating certain foods not because of the food itself but because of the comfort it gives. Don't they call that addiction? :(

    Another thing I gotta throw into the discourse I have family members with fibromyalgia and other in intestinal problems who got diagnosed by one doctor and not seeing any change went to specialists and got different and sometime better diagnosis. So my advise is to get a second opinion before turning your eating habits upside down. Especially when you have a family it gets really hard changing your eating habits........more work preparing specialized foods and more expense(specialized foods are more expensive) do make changing your eating habits worse.

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