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Nataani for Dusk

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
LOL. Nope. I'm a mother, healer, and a wildcrafter, in that order. But if it means anything, I've done stints periodically over the years with showing some of those skills either to kids or adults that wanted to learn... :p
I say that being a mom is similar...; )
The info you posted on being a wildcrafter is interesting. I mainly drink peppermint tea these days as it's good for the digestion too isn't it? My daughter uses lavender on her forehead to help with migraines...

I also found what you were saying about the fibres in milkweed interesting...can it be spun? I can do very basic spinning...with wool/angora but have tried making cord out of plant fibres. My sister did a basketweaving course where they used plant fibres to make the basket. I've always wanted to try something like that...
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
No problem, it's very informative.

I usually have Chamomile tea in the house, because in the past it's helped settle a very upset stomach.

Very, very informative. I don't think we have dogweed in NZ, but we do have a milkweed, commonly called puha. It's a staple in Maori cooking...they do a boilup called pork and puha...I love the pork part but the puha makes me shudder, too much like spinach or silverbeet for my liking. I do some foraging but only for food.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
Seliah, that is really interesting to learn.
I sometimes uses various teas to try and feel a little better.
A book I have (put it up and forgot where) listed which is used for what so I bought a box of mixed flavors at the store and tried them.
Chamomile does help my headache and aids in sleeping.

Thanks for the link to that morph pack...it is now in my wish list for when I get lucky on some cash. :)
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
I say that being a mom is similar...; )
The info you posted on being a wildcrafter is interesting. I mainly drink peppermint tea these days as it's good for the digestion too isn't it? My daughter uses lavender on her forehead to help with migraines...

I also found what you were saying about the fibres in milkweed interesting...can it be spun? I can do very basic spinning...with wool/angora but have tried making cord out of plant fibres. My sister did a basketweaving course where they used plant fibres to make the basket. I've always wanted to try something like that...

Yes, peppermint can help with things like bloat, stomach gas, and just plain "who stunk up the room now?!" gas. :)

It's got some antispasmodic properties as well. Additionally, it's capable of nudging the gallbladder's activity as well; it can help increase the flow of bile to the liver and all of that, which helps with digestion of fats. I know some folks will tout that it has a potential detoxifying effect where the liver is concerned, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that part of things. For me, what I've seen it personally do is help with the digestive process of food, and mild painkilling. It's also good for clearing a stuffed nose, if you do the peppermint tea bags in a pot over the stove and breathe the vapors in. The concentrated vapors can help clear the stuffed nose, they also have a little bit of a cooling effect, so inflamed sinuses or agitated eyes can sometimes benefit from just taking the vapors in also.

Regarding the milkweed fibers... I have never attempted to spin it myself. I can't imagine that it would be too much trouble for someone who's used to spinning fibers into thread. It would just be that they're using the milkweed fibers instead of cotton or wool fibers, I would think. Personally, I don't really do a lot of weaving, and I'm not good enough at it yet to spin my own yarns and spools. So I can't say for sure. I've done some basketweaving, and some of that we used cedar... I love cedar, I miss smelling the cedar on this coast! LOL Anyway! I can't see why milkweed fibers would be a problem to spin. We're winding them together when we make cordage as it is.

The trick with working with milkweed fibers is you have to harvest the plant at the right time of year, and the right age. You don't want a first-year plant; you want to harvest preferably from a second year or older plant, and you want to catch it in the early to mid fall, just as the stems are starting to dry out. If you wait until the whole thing is completely brown for the winter, you won't have much luck getting the fibers out of the stalk, or if you do, they'll often be too brittle to be wrapped into cordage.

Very, very informative. I don't think we have dogweed in NZ, but we do have a milkweed, commonly called puha. It's a staple in Maori cooking...they do a boilup called pork and puha...I love the pork part but the puha makes me shudder, too much like spinach or silverbeet for my liking. I do some foraging but only for food.

I had to look up what Puha was, as I'd never heard of it before. LOL - No wonder it tastes like spinach to you. We call it dandelion on this side of the big pond!! From everything I could find, it seems to be either the exact species of dandelions I'm familiar with, or something that is closely related to it. Dandelions DO taste a lot like spinach when boiled. I frequently cook them in a similar manner, actually... usually serve them with a touch of vinegar, or use them in soups the same way spinach would be used. :D Yeah, if you don't like the taste of spinach, you will NOT like that plant either!

Seliah, that is really interesting to learn.
I sometimes uses various teas to try and feel a little better.
A book I have (put it up and forgot where) listed which is used for what so I bought a box of mixed flavors at the store and tried them.
Chamomile does help my headache and aids in sleeping.

Thanks for the link to that morph pack...it is now in my wish list for when I get lucky on some cash. :)

You're welcome for the link, FL. :)

As far as the teas... I started learning this stuff when I was little, so I've been doing it a lot of years now. It's second nature to me, and I am pretty good at being able to tell when I can handle something versus when it's something that's out of my scope... in which case I drag them to the doctor. ;)
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Yes, peppermint can help with things like bloat, stomach gas, and just plain "who stunk up the room now?!" gas. :)
I use it for this as I have irritable bowel and diverticulosis.
It's got some antispasmodic properties as well. Additionally, it's capable of nudging the gallbladder's activity as well; it can help increase the flow of bile to the liver and all of that, which helps with digestion of fats. I know some folks will tout that it has a potential detoxifying effect where the liver is concerned, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that part of things. For me, what I've seen it personally do is help with the digestive process of food, and mild painkilling. It's also good for clearing a stuffed nose, if you do the peppermint tea bags in a pot over the stove and breathe the vapors in. The concentrated vapors can help clear the stuffed nose, they also have a little bit of a cooling effect, so inflamed sinuses or agitated eyes can sometimes benefit from just taking the vapors in also.
I never heard that stuff about the liver so it's good to know that's not true and I certainly wasn't aware about the vapours that is good to know as it may help with my sinus. I've used vicks vapour rub in hot water for clearing sinuses but it's horrible...works but it's horrible to do!
Regarding the milkweed fibers... I have never attempted to spin it myself. I can't imagine that it would be too much trouble for someone who's used to spinning fibers into thread. It would just be that they're using the milkweed fibers instead of cotton or wool fibers, I would think. Personally, I don't really do a lot of weaving, and I'm not good enough at it yet to spin my own yarns and spools. So I can't say for sure. I've done some basketweaving, and some of that we used cedar... I love cedar, I miss smelling the cedar on this coast! LOL Anyway! I can't see why milkweed fibers would be a problem to spin. We're winding them together when we make cordage as it is.
I can do basic spinning and have an old second hand wheel. Spun enough to make a shawl and I've got some angora I'm mixing with merino to make it a stronger yarn that I still have to decide what to do with it...if I ever get enough time to finish it. It's very low on the priority list but spinning is very relaxing once you get into the zone. Cedar would spell nice...
The trick with working with milkweed fibers is you have to harvest the plant at the right time of year, and the right age. You don't want a first-year plant; you want to harvest preferably from a second year or older plant, and you want to catch it in the early to mid fall, just as the stems are starting to dry out. If you wait until the whole thing is completely brown for the winter, you won't have much luck getting the fibers out of the stalk, or if you do, they'll often be too brittle to be wrapped into cordage.
I would imagine you would need to know the right technique for preparing the fibres too. I know that plant fibres normally require some preparation before you can use them...
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
Puha is different to dandelion in that it grows tall. It's also a NZ native. It grows anywhere and everywhere and guinea pigs and rabbits love it, even if I don't. I recall spending many hours foraging for our ever hungry guinea pigs.
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Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
I never heard that stuff about the liver so it's good to know that's not true and I certainly wasn't aware about the vapours that is good to know as it may help with my sinus. I've used vicks vapour rub in hot water for clearing sinuses but it's horrible...works but it's horrible to do!

I can't say with 100% certainty that it's not true at all, but for me personally, I've never witnessed anything that would lead me to believe that it is true. Does that make sense? It might be that it has that affect only under specific circumstances, or in some individuals but not all... you see the point. I just can't in good conscience tout an effect of an herb when I personally have not witnessed it, OR seen enough corroborating documentation and studies to show it. That's all. Too many people tout herbs as magical cure-alls, and they are not. They are tools, and they are indeed medicines, but they each have their own limits and like all things where human bodies are concerned, mileage may vary from person to person. What works for one, may not work for another and vice versa.

I would imagine you would need to know the right technique for preparing the fibres too. I know that plant fibres normally require some preparation before you can use them...

Yes. They do require a bit of preparation. Just getting the fibers out of the stalk can sometimes be a bit of a chore in itself. Once you've got them out of the stalk, you have to separate them, clean them up a bit, and then they need to dry a wee bit (but not TOO much!). And then you can start winding them together as cordage after that. Ideal fibers are moist enough to bend and twist without snapping, but not so moist as to be leaking when twisted or squeezed. ;) So, yes. It does take a bit of preparation, like most things acquired from the natural environment.

Puha is different to dandelion in that it grows tall. It's also a NZ native. It grows anywhere and everywhere and guinea pigs and rabbits love it, even if I don't. I recall spending many hours foraging for our ever hungry guinea pigs.

Yes. I spotted photos of that as well. Even those share some similar features to the dandelion. I can see why it would remind you of spinach in flavor. :D If by some miracle I'm ever over on that side of the world, I will totally have to try some. I'd probably be the crazy yank that loves it when most would hate it. LMAO
 

Lorraine

The Wicked Witch of the North
Well, you won't have a problem finding someone to cook up a feed of it for you. But it won't be me ;) I can find the someone for you but :)
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
I can't say with 100% certainty that it's not true at all, but for me personally, I've never witnessed anything that would lead me to believe that it is true. Does that make sense?
Yes...excellent sense.


Yes. They do require a bit of preparation. Just getting the fibers out of the stalk can sometimes be a bit of a chore in itself. Once you've got them out of the stalk, you have to separate them, clean them up a bit, and then they need to dry a wee bit (but not TOO much!). And then you can start winding them together as cordage after that. Ideal fibers are moist enough to bend and twist without snapping, but not so moist as to be leaking when twisted or squeezed. ;) So, yes. It does take a bit of preparation, like most things acquired from the natural environment.
I thought it might...when I was home with the kids I used to like trying all the different crafts. These days I don't have enough hours in the day. It would be interesting to try it sometime though.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Well, you won't have a problem finding someone to cook up a feed of it for you. But it won't be me ;) I can find the someone for you but :)

Haha! Yes, I'm the crazy Yank that when I get to go somewhere foreign, to hell with the tourist traps, I'm looking for the local stuff... and I'm just nuts enough to try most of it! :D

Okay. LOL. Dragging myself back on track here... I've been fighting with a couple of Nataani's poses, which is why there's been the delay on getting him into Beta. We ended up with at least one pose that puts him with Harry. I have to figure out how to save Harry's pose as well, as I would like to do the same for Harry that I've done with the cowboy hat, and give folks the ability to match the pair together.

Note that I am still tweaking the pose on the mane... not sure yet how to save his pose so that it poses the mane AND the tail.. do I need to save three separate poses, one for Harry, one for the mane, and one for the tail? Or... what?

800x800 pixels, so you might want to zoom in to see it properly. This is still a bit of a WIP mostly because of the mane. I also need to fix Nataani's one foot as it's bent doward a bit too far into the ground plane there.

HarryPose01.png


This isn't the best angle of it, as you can't really see all of it - I've set a render going from another angle, though, and will post that up when it's finished. It's being done with UE2 lights here, so it's going to take my machine a good 20 or 25 minutes to render it. If I haven't racked out for the night by the time it's done, I'll get it up when it's done. If I've dropped for the night, the other angle will be posted in the morning when I get up.
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
It think it would be a case of saving the pose with Dusk selected and then saving it with Harry selected. Normally poses like that have two separate pose files at least the ones I bought here have...and then you apply them separately to the characters.

forgot to say Lovely pose...
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
It think it would be a case of saving the pose with Dusk selected and then saving it with Harry selected. Normally poses like that have two separate pose files at least the ones I bought here have...and then you apply them separately to the characters.

forgot to say Lovely pose...

Yeah, my concern isn't saving it for Harry and Nataani - that part I got no problem. It's saving Harry's pose in a way to make sure his mane and tail also get posed... I have to fiddle with it, as I haven't tried to make pose presets for Harry before, and I know his mane and tail work a little differently in some ways than other figures.

And thanks. It was really fiddly to get this one... not as bad as the cowboy hat poses were, but Dusk's fingers/hands can be a real PITA to pose just right sometimes, and I am extremely nitpicky about body parts poking through things they shouldn't be poking through! LOL

I also think Harry's front facing forward leg needs to be adjusted a little bit - to my eyes, he still looks a touch off-balance there.

Anyway. Off to grab some grub and wait for the other render to finish! :D
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
OK, different camera angle. You can see where I still have to work on the posing of the mane as well yet... but this is the general idea. Dusk's pose itself is finished, other than fixing the one foot that's pushing down through the floor plane. Harry's is still a little bit WIP for the mane and the one foreleg.

Here's the alternate angle, though... shows the rest of this a little bit better.

HarryPose02.png



Now I'm off to go grab munchies. :)
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Not sure about that...but the poses from Laurie do the mane and tail as well. I would think it would be a case of trying it and seeing if the mane and tail show up in the sections to select.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Well, I still have a spot or two on the mane to fix. And I still need to fix Nataani's one foot here. But I think Harry looks a little more balanced now on the front legs. ;)

HarryPose03.png


This is definitely one of those poses where Dusk's feet will need manual adjustment for whatever shoes/boots he ends up wearing. That's just the nature of these types of foot positions. I set the poses up barefoot, but with shoes he will require some manual adjustment, particularly on the foot that is crossed over to the other side.
 

Seliah (Childe of Fyre)

Running with the wolves.
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Next phase... I think I'm happy with the mane posing now. Still not happy with the left foreleg. It's way too far bent yet in this render.

I need to go back to the picture references for these animals... I worked with them quite a bit when I was younger, but it's been at least fifteen years since I've been able to be around them. *twitches* And that left foreleg is still not right in my book. I'll hit the photos again and try it again. LOL

But I think I'm happy with the mane... I need to adjust the tail and that ferschluggener left foreleg; the rest of Harry's pose I'm actually pretty happy with now.

HarryPose05.png
 
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