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Questions/Issues with Dawn 2? Ask them here - all welcome to help!
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I'm running into an issue with conforming clothes to Dawn 2. I am refitting my old Carnie set to Dawn 2, and before conforming the clothing fits fine.
Let's take the belt, for example. I load the OBJ in and it fits around her nicely. I take it into the setup room and apply the skeleton. Return to the Pose room. Then I assign a new name for the belt.
Pick Figure > Conform To, and select Dawn 2 to conform. Belt enlarges and looks funky.
This is a first for me (this issue, not creating conforming clothing). I have the latest build of Poser 13. I've tried reinstalling Dawn and the content a few times and still get the same results. Has anyone else run into this, and what was the solution?
Let's take the belt, for example. I load the OBJ in and it fits around her nicely. I take it into the setup room and apply the skeleton. Return to the Pose room. Then I assign a new name for the belt.
Pick Figure > Conform To, and select Dawn 2 to conform. Belt enlarges and looks funky.
This is a first for me (this issue, not creating conforming clothing). I have the latest build of Poser 13. I've tried reinstalling Dawn and the content a few times and still get the same results. Has anyone else run into this, and what was the solution?
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There was a bug before her release. Did you have a fully loaded Dawn or a Dawn with no morphs? I found that I needed two Dawns in the scene. One loaded and one not loaded with morphs. Do your refits using the unloaded Dawn, once the refit is done, conform and then use the loaded Dawn to transfer the morphs into the belt or other clothing items. That works. I just thought they had this issue resolved. Maybe they do and this is a new issue?
Oops I thought I had it. Nope, the next piece of clothing did the same thing. I thought I figured it out, but no luck.
I did the refits using the Dawn 2 base object. Did the fits manually in ZBrush, so they should be OK. When I apply the skeleton I select Dawn 2 from the Library palette. It looks fine until I conform it, then BOOM. I did notice there was a Poser update file, which I am using. But still no dice.
I did the refits using the Dawn 2 base object. Did the fits manually in ZBrush, so they should be OK. When I apply the skeleton I select Dawn 2 from the Library palette. It looks fine until I conform it, then BOOM. I did notice there was a Poser update file, which I am using. But still no dice.
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I am not using it but Fitting room is not totally bugs free and need serious updates no matter what figure you use . I am creating all my stuff in DS for Poser , and beside adjusting some weight maps later in Poser and materials , that's all I do .
Yeah I don't trust Auto Grouping. I usually group my model before even taking it into the setup room. I use Auto Group Editor (but sometimes my modeler).
And then after applying the skeleton I go back and transfer morphs and weights from the figure in the Pose room. Cleaner transfer that way.
I rarely use the fitting room.
Great idea Alisa to create this new thread .. we needed that ! Thanks !
SimonJM
Eager
Is this with Poser or DS?
I only know DS, but there are two (or three?) ways to zero things - zero figure and zero pose (with and without selected figure as options). I have not checked lately but zero (selected) pose juust zeroes the poses, whilst zero (selected) figure will; remove morphs as well.
Yes, the Figure > Zero Figure command does indeed seem to change the JCMs. The JCMs On-Off switch in the Hidden Parameters resets to Zero.
The quickest way to "zero" the figure is to right-click on Dawn in the document window, and choose Restore > Figure. This should put her in default pose and position. Alternatively, choose the Edit > Restore > Figure command.
The other way is to choose the Figure > Zero Rotations command. But then afterward you may need to select the Hip actor and change the X, Y, and/or Z Trans settings to zero if she doesn't appear in the default position.
I also notice there is a "Restore All" pose in the Hivewire 3D > Base folder in the Library.
EDIT TO ADD: I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. I have the base and head/body morphs injected and they seem to be working properly. HOWEVER ... I see no difference when switching that JCMs On-Off switch between a 0 and 1 setting.
The quickest way to "zero" the figure is to right-click on Dawn in the document window, and choose Restore > Figure. This should put her in default pose and position. Alternatively, choose the Edit > Restore > Figure command.
The other way is to choose the Figure > Zero Rotations command. But then afterward you may need to select the Hip actor and change the X, Y, and/or Z Trans settings to zero if she doesn't appear in the default position.
I also notice there is a "Restore All" pose in the Hivewire 3D > Base folder in the Library.
EDIT TO ADD: I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. I have the base and head/body morphs injected and they seem to be working properly. HOWEVER ... I see no difference when switching that JCMs On-Off switch between a 0 and 1 setting.
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Hello,
Anyone using Dawn 2 with the cloth room in Poser ?
I am seeing an issue where the hands are not ignored, even ensuring they are un checked (also have ignore hands and feet checked in the collision settings. What is happening is that the hand intersects the cloth and interacts with it, even when hands are not supposed to be collision objects. this results in the hands dragging the cloth along.
Work around is to make certain the hands never intersect the cloth at any point between poses.
I have not had to do this with any other figures.
Anyone using Dawn 2 with the cloth room in Poser ?
I am seeing an issue where the hands are not ignored, even ensuring they are un checked (also have ignore hands and feet checked in the collision settings. What is happening is that the hand intersects the cloth and interacts with it, even when hands are not supposed to be collision objects. this results in the hands dragging the cloth along.
Work around is to make certain the hands never intersect the cloth at any point between poses.
I have not had to do this with any other figures.
There are only JCMs on Dawn 2 base that works in specific positions only, you can't see it while in standard T pose .
Yes zero figure turns off the JCMs and all morphs. Restore figure will leave the JCMs on.
randym77
Member
Thanks for the reply!
Is there a reason you set it up to work that way? Is it a DS thing, maybe? It's not the way it usually works in Poser.
Not a big deal. It's easy to work around, and someone at Rosity is already planning to make a master dial to do what Zero Figure usually does in Poser. I'm just curious. Is there some advantage to this? I can't imagine a situation where I'd want JCMs turned off.
