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Nataani for Dusk
- Thread starter Seliah (Childe of Fyre)
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And Pose 8 is now considered done (fixed Dusk's shoulders and overall position a little bit better). I will be moving onto the 9th one tonight. 
Is that one going to be with Harry too? Curious minds want to know.
Yes, it will be. I will most likely do both the 9th and the remaining 10th pose with Harry, if people would like that.
If people DO want to have both of the remaining two pose slots done with Harry (the 9th is already decided, but I can do one with Harry for the remaining 10th if desired), it would give us this breakdown on poses :
3 with the cowboy hat
4 with Harry
3 with Dusk on his own
I'll second that!
Alrighty, then. LOL
Slots 9 and 10 will both involve Harry.
Slots 9 and 10 will both involve Harry.
The WIP pose #9....
Please pardon the complete and total lack of tack.... for one thing, I haven't yet bought the classic tack for Harry.
But for the other thing... personally, I have only ever ridden completely tackless... the very first time I got onto a horse I was about ten years old, in jeans, boots, and a t-shirt, and he was absolutely not in a tack... and they could never get me to work with a tack after that. Scared the snot out of the adults that were too slow to stop me from getting up onto him, but I seem to have no problems with hugging the neck and making use of touch and the mane to stay steady and on the horse.
All that to say... bareback and completely tackless is what I'm the most familiar with... so most poses from me that involve a figure on the horse are most likely to be done for tackless riding. If I ever sit down to do poses that involve a saddle... well, I will have to pull up photos for reference. LMAO
Anyway. This is the WIP pose #9... I have some more tweaking yet to do on Dusk for it. But it's coming along, and will probably be finished up early tomorrow.
Please pardon the complete and total lack of tack.... for one thing, I haven't yet bought the classic tack for Harry.
But for the other thing... personally, I have only ever ridden completely tackless... the very first time I got onto a horse I was about ten years old, in jeans, boots, and a t-shirt, and he was absolutely not in a tack... and they could never get me to work with a tack after that. Scared the snot out of the adults that were too slow to stop me from getting up onto him, but I seem to have no problems with hugging the neck and making use of touch and the mane to stay steady and on the horse.
All that to say... bareback and completely tackless is what I'm the most familiar with... so most poses from me that involve a figure on the horse are most likely to be done for tackless riding. If I ever sit down to do poses that involve a saddle... well, I will have to pull up photos for reference. LMAO
Anyway. This is the WIP pose #9... I have some more tweaking yet to do on Dusk for it. But it's coming along, and will probably be finished up early tomorrow.
Yes, yes they do! LOL
I have to fix Harry's front foreleg yet; it's a little out of kilter where it meets the body. But it's very close to done at the moment. I might take another look at the mane, though truth be told, if you're riding tackless, you're partly in contact with the mane, so it would not really be flying all around the place to the same extent as if the animal was galloping without a person on it's back.
I have to fix Harry's front foreleg yet; it's a little out of kilter where it meets the body. But it's very close to done at the moment. I might take another look at the mane, though truth be told, if you're riding tackless, you're partly in contact with the mane, so it would not really be flying all around the place to the same extent as if the animal was galloping without a person on it's back.
I sort of got the idea you were into tackless from pose #8, and I like this pose.
When you do get the tack, and the Western Tack is supposedly coming out soon, the Classic has hand poses for 1 handed and 2 handed grasp of the reins for the Bridle, and IIRC, matching poses for Dusk and Dawn, so that'll get you started with poses with tack. I'm assuming the Western Tack will have the same hand poses for it's Bridle and Dawn and Dusk.
When you do get the tack, and the Western Tack is supposedly coming out soon, the Classic has hand poses for 1 handed and 2 handed grasp of the reins for the Bridle, and IIRC, matching poses for Dusk and Dawn, so that'll get you started with poses with tack. I'm assuming the Western Tack will have the same hand poses for it's Bridle and Dawn and Dusk.
Miss B, that's good to know. I will definitely need that starting point, at least until I figure out what joint belongs where and in what position... LOL. Between that, and photographs... it should be enough for me, though I doubt a tack will ever see a lot of use in my own personal renders.
I sort of got the idea you were into tackless from pose #8, and I like this pose.
Yeah... my attempts at riding in tack... western, classic, it did not matter... did not ever go well. I just felt cut off from the animal, and that.. bugs me. A lot. And, well. If you're antsy and keyed up, the horse will be antsy and keyed up... yup, I got tossed... and then rather bluntly informed my elders that I was not ever again touching a saddle and reigns (that was not my only attempt at riding in saddle... it was just the final straw for me. LOL!)Needless to say, they were more than a little annoyed, but finally gave up trying to put me into a saddle when the throw happened. I guess it was finally obvious that the dang saddle was more dangerous to me than a tackless full gallop or trail ride.
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And this is a top-down view of the WIP pose #9... still have a few spots to tweak before I call it good enough for the library save.
Last preview of the WIP pose 9 for the night... rear-facing camera. You can get a better feel for the animal's energy in this camera angle, I think.
I'll finish the pose up tomorrow morning. Right foreleg, Harry's mane, Dusk's right shin and left hand all need a bit of tweaking yet to suit to the pose properly. The mane, I have a feeling, will be what takes me the longest. There are so many sections, even with the help of the posing morphs, and trying to click on center or inner layer vs. outer layer is very difficult... so there's a lot of back and forth with my Scene tab to my Parameters tab to get the mane right.
I will address the remaining bits of tweaking on this pose tomorrow, I think. I'm going to call this a night for now. I need sleep.
I'll finish the pose up tomorrow morning. Right foreleg, Harry's mane, Dusk's right shin and left hand all need a bit of tweaking yet to suit to the pose properly. The mane, I have a feeling, will be what takes me the longest. There are so many sections, even with the help of the posing morphs, and trying to click on center or inner layer vs. outer layer is very difficult... so there's a lot of back and forth with my Scene tab to my Parameters tab to get the mane right.
I will address the remaining bits of tweaking on this pose tomorrow, I think. I'm going to call this a night for now. I need sleep.
I'm still not too happy with the mane yet. You'll see the problems on the top of the head and at the back of the head. (The 2nd and 4th images really show the problem areas on the mane.) But I have the rest of this fixed the way I want it now. I just have to work on the mane's pose a little more. I find it's really difficult to pluck out the individual sections and then judging where they all are in relation to each other and Dusk's body. I do the actual mane posing with transmaps OFF and no textures so I have the harsh and solid white to look at, but even that is tricky at times to get all the parts where they belong.
Still - I wouldn't trade Harry's mane for anything else in the world. He just needs a little extra TLC when posing the long mane is all.
Anyway - a few views of where the pose is at. Harry's fetlocks, tail, and body are considered done. Dusk's pose is considered done. I just have to hammer away at the mane a little bit more and then this will be ready for the library save. ^_^
Note :
I built the Horse/Dusk poses with the long mane on Harry, so if you load the pose without the mane, you will most definitely need to adjust Dusk's hands and possibly arms. It should work okay on the shorter manes... I think. I will go through the process of testing that out for all of the Harry poses, as they were all built with the long mane in effect. My logic there was that if I got them working with the long mane, they ought to work okay for the short ones. I'll test that logic later after I have the 10th pose done. LOL
I also build poses like this, where the figure is on/interacting closely with an animal, with clothing on, so that I can minimize the amount of tweaking the end user has to do once they put clothes on the figure. I always check the poses again without clothing to make sure things aren't horribly jiggered up, but the main bulk of the pose building gets done with clothing ON, since, well.. nobody is going to ride a horse - saddle or no - in their birthday suit!
I will still be doing the partial poses for these with Nataani's pack, though obviously, they wouldn't work very well for things that don't involve Harry. But the partials of these poses might help with posing Dusk interacting with our horse.
I think for the last pose, I will do a calmer trot or canter with Harry... he isn't going to be galloping all of the time... they love to gallop, but it's really not good for them to gallop constantly, and if you watch them in pasture or outdoors, even the wild horses alternate between gallops and trots and walks.
Anyway - off to fix Harry's mane, and then moving onto the last pose.
P.S.
Laurie, I just love your textures for Harry. I don't get to play with Harry a whole lot because I don't really have a big call for horses in my usual/personal renders, so whenever I do get to work with him I find myself playing with all of the textures I have!
Still - I wouldn't trade Harry's mane for anything else in the world. He just needs a little extra TLC when posing the long mane is all.
Anyway - a few views of where the pose is at. Harry's fetlocks, tail, and body are considered done. Dusk's pose is considered done. I just have to hammer away at the mane a little bit more and then this will be ready for the library save. ^_^
Note :
I built the Horse/Dusk poses with the long mane on Harry, so if you load the pose without the mane, you will most definitely need to adjust Dusk's hands and possibly arms. It should work okay on the shorter manes... I think. I will go through the process of testing that out for all of the Harry poses, as they were all built with the long mane in effect. My logic there was that if I got them working with the long mane, they ought to work okay for the short ones. I'll test that logic later after I have the 10th pose done. LOL
I also build poses like this, where the figure is on/interacting closely with an animal, with clothing on, so that I can minimize the amount of tweaking the end user has to do once they put clothes on the figure. I always check the poses again without clothing to make sure things aren't horribly jiggered up, but the main bulk of the pose building gets done with clothing ON, since, well.. nobody is going to ride a horse - saddle or no - in their birthday suit!
I will still be doing the partial poses for these with Nataani's pack, though obviously, they wouldn't work very well for things that don't involve Harry. But the partials of these poses might help with posing Dusk interacting with our horse.
I think for the last pose, I will do a calmer trot or canter with Harry... he isn't going to be galloping all of the time... they love to gallop, but it's really not good for them to gallop constantly, and if you watch them in pasture or outdoors, even the wild horses alternate between gallops and trots and walks.
Anyway - off to fix Harry's mane, and then moving onto the last pose.
P.S.
Laurie, I just love your textures for Harry. I don't get to play with Harry a whole lot because I don't really have a big call for horses in my usual/personal renders, so whenever I do get to work with him I find myself playing with all of the textures I have!