What would you like to see ..

[Karth]

for Dawn, Dusk , Luna or Harry ?

I want to create some conforming pieces of clothing.
Have no idea´s at the Moment what ppl are missing .
Also ppl do have so many different kind of wishes how the Cloth has to work / look ..
all those points.
I want to know where and how i can improve my products
So please tell me...
and not only "a Shirt please"..
that can be so much...maybe you have your own Shirt style in mind ?

1. What Kind of Cloth ...shoes, Shirt and so on ?
Reference pic to post maybe would help too.
2. Speciell Morphs IN ?
3. Set or one Piece Packages?
4. Prefer DS or Poser ?
5. Preferred Figure ?

Beside this ..every post is important to get a fair Impression.

Thanks much

-------- sorry if english grammar is not perfect ---------

 

[Lorraine]

Would love to see a little girls dress and shoes for Luna. Something cute and girly, and knee length or just above the knees

 

[Seliah (Childe of Fyre)]

Karth, don't ever worry about your english. You do a great job with it and I at least can understand you just fine.

As for what I'd like to see...

I'll keep this one to Luna, but... Anything at all would be greatly appreciated! Infant and toddler clothes for both boys and girls! SciFi styled items as well would be greatly appreciated, though I suspect normal everyday wear would sell better for you at the moment as Luna is lacking in a lot of areas of the wardrobe.

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Here's some examples of what I mean :

Girls :

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDMwMA==/z/M5AAAOSwn51UZJWh/$_35.JPG?set_id=2
(NOT necessarily in pink... but the general style is what I'm trying to demonstrate.)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/8b/07/8e/8b078e7b352122e6ef84384cf5e7eb6c.jpg
(This would be great with a cute little pair of Mary Jane shoes and leggings that we could texture for either "leggings" or "tights" as we want. Again, no, I'm not looking for the Minnie Mouse imagery, but the overall style of the outfit. If it was done with long sleeves and several arm material zones we could easily re-texture the dress part as either a winter dress or spring/summer dress if we wanted to.)

http://plusandcute.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cute-girl-clothes-20.jpg
(Again, a pair of shoes and leggings/tights would go great with something like this.)

http://dekart.biz/wp-content/uploads/parser/cute-baby-girl-clothes-newborn-8.jpg
(A pair of boots would be great with something like this also, and we could work with the sleeve cuffs and pant cuffs to make it furry for winter or lacy for summer/spring times if we wanted to..)

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=60064002

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=39330865
(Something like this if done with sneakers as well as the little dress shoes could work for both boys AND girls..)

http://newimg.globalmarket.com/PicLib/108/729108/prod/14_1286526551934_l.jpg

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=42744033
(Again, I would think this kind of outfit would be great with leggings/tights or even socks that could be textured as knee highs or ankle-highs if wanted...)

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/...Outerwear-Shirt-Pants-Girl-Winter-Clothes.jpg
(This could easily be textured for either girls OR boys... especially if boots or sneakers are done with it.)

http://plusandcute.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cute-baby-girl-clothes-28.jpg
(And something like this, if the "lace" parts were set up as their own material zones, could also work for either boys OR girls.)

https://www.accentclothing.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ania-in-moncler-2-copy.jpg

Boys :

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Qpqy...ld-double-button-three-pieces.jpg_220x220.jpg
(With sneakers or boots, and I think this could work for either boys OR girls as well.)

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mxZkQI3kNa8jXmGfROOUssg.jpg
(With some dress shoes, this kind of style would be adorable... boys dress up sometimes, too!)

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/...-b-font-font-b-clothing-b-font-male-child.jpg
(Boots or sneakers would be needed with this; I would think boots would go better with it, but could see either type of shoe done.)

http://www.yourstyleideas.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/baby-boy-outfits-4.jpg
(And the classic denim jumper/overalls... I would personally love to see this in long-sleeve and long-pants version with shoes/sneakers... if the material zones are done right, they could be re-textured easily for shorts/short-sleeves or long sleeves/long pants as wanted.)

http://slimages.macysassets.com/is/...0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.7,1.0,0.5,0&fmt=jpeg
(This would need boots/sneakers of some kind to round it out as an outfit, though.)

http://24x7eshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/baby-boy-clothes.jpg

http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1V41g...s-Toddler-font-b-Baby-b-font-font-b-Boy-b.jpg
(I'd say tie is optional lol... I would never even TRY to put a tie like that on a little boy no matter how fancy the occasion might be. They'd be more likely to get the tie caught on something than anything else, even if it was only a pin-on type. LOL)

https://www.accentclothing.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/shanes-boy-in-moncler-2-copy.jpg
(Again, with winter shoes/boots... Luna needs something like this for both genders! LOL)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/89/15/de/8915de195313f5e3e69ddb360fb2f50e.jpg

http://thebirdfeednyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Baby-Clothes-Target-Boys.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/68/24/02/682402fb4ad8aad455f92d539ef82328.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mjk0WDMwMA==/z/TpwAAOSwRLZULPO3/$_35.JPG?set_id=2

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As far as morphs go... I like to see morphs that allow things like jacket or zippered hoodies to open and close. If it's a long coat that reaches the hips or longer, I like to see either movement morphs that allow me to control the bottom of the coat to simulate wind and gravity, or bones in it that allow me to bend/twist/side-to-side the bottoms. This same goes for skirts or very long sweaters/shirts also. If something has actual pockets in it, I love having morphs to open/close those pockets for use in a scene. Some of my most frequently used items are those that have proper sets of functional morphs for things like this in them.

Adjustment morphs... things that allow us to expand the mesh around shoulders, elbows, wrists, forearms, upper arms, knees, ankles, neck, shin, thigh, etc... this allows us to kind of fit the clothing around any dialed or morphed shape on the figure as well as allows for layering with other clothing items.

With pants, leggings, tights, and skirts especially we really need some morphs around the hips/waist that allow for layering or pairing them up with tops from other sets so we can either tuck a shirt into the bottoms or have the shirt lay over top of the bottoms.

The above three paragraphs go for Dusk and Dawn clothing for me as well... whether it's little kids or adult clothing, I am especially grateful when I find an outfit that actually functions as the outfit should, or as close to how it could/should in the real world. I like to make pockets usable, hoods raise and lower, coats/zippered hoodies/button down shirts open and close, long sleeves roll up or down.

I am basically a DS-only artist, so honestly, I would vastly prefer if the item were made for DS - especially because we don't have any projection templates to "convert" Poser Luna clothes to DS Luna clothes inside of DS. So if the outfit is a long skirt or coat with special movement handles, or even just being a long skirt period, it will NOT convert to Luna very well inside of DS if it's a Poser outfit.

I'm not sure why clothes made for Luna/Dusk/Dawn inside of Poser come into DS in such a way as to set Studio asking us to convert the clothing to fit the figure... I never have understood why that happens. But because it happens, it means Poser clothing is usable only to a certain degree for us inside of Studio. Long skirts and long coats will not convert well since we have NO projection templates. But things like shirts, gloves, pants, shoes, hats all of that generally converts just fine.

All that to say... I would probably buy it whether it was made for Poser or not (so long as it's NOT Poser dynamic cloth). But I would personally like to see a version for Studio, or see it made for both programs (but I understand if you prefer to only support one platform or another - I know how much extra work and how frustrating it can be trying to support both programs).

Anyhow - I am very sorry if I overloaded you! I was just trying to provide lots of examples and hopefully things to get the old inspiration going for you... and answer the questions you had as far as functionality in the items. Outfits with extensive function and adjustment morphs I am much, much more willing to pay a higher pricetag on to get, because they become SO VITAL for my everyday rendering work! I have lots and lots of wonderful outfits that sit in my libraries and DON'T get used simply because they have NO functional or adjustment morphs.

Hope all of this helps, Karth. And my apologies again if I overloaded you.

 

[Lorraine]

http://plusandcute.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cute-girl-clothes-20.jpg
(Again, a pair of shoes and leggings/tights would go great with something like this.)

This is the sort of dress I would LOVE for Luna.

Love your list, Seliah, and thank you for doing it, it's almost impossible to do a search like that on a phone.

 

[Seliah (Childe of Fyre)]

This is the sort of dress I would LOVE for Luna.

Love your list, Seliah, and thank you for doing it, it's almost impossible to do a search like that on a phone.

No problem on the search, Lorraine. I figured multiple examples would be much more helpful than just trying to describe styles. Pictures for reference help a lot.

And that dress is adorable, yes. Personally, the whole "girls clothes MUST BE PINK!!" thing annoys me, but hey - that's why we make our own textures! LOL There was a time where pink was considered a boy's color... But the little jacket and that dress.. that combination is just really cute on baby and toddler girls.

 

[Lorraine]

That's why I liked it, it was so cute. And you are so right, pink has taken over the entire girl clothes colour palette and there are so many other pretty shades. When I go into some little girls bedrooms they're so pink and sweet, my teeth hurt.

 

[Satira Capriccio]

Yeah. I don't get the pink thing. But then, as a kid, my favorite color was blue. We had a set of dishes where each dish was a different color, and each of us used that particular color ever meal. Yeah. Mine was a pinkish red. Think I could get that changed to the blueish plate? Nope. At least I wasn't assigned the yellow one!

Needless to say, when I was pregnant, I informed people that I preferred blues for baby things. Absolutely no yellow, please. Not like a baby girl was going to complain if she had to wear blue. Good thing I suppose that it was a boy

The worst thing though about forcing pink on little girls is that it goes hand in hand with the whole girls can't be, can't do, and are less than mindset.

 

[Lorraine]

The worst thing though about forcing pink on little girls is that it goes hand in hand with the whole girls can't be, can't do, and are less than mindset.

So true, Satira! Gets right up my nose.

 

[Miss B]

I happen to like yellow, if it's a very pale yellow. I used to buy pale yellow or pale green for baby clothes because I never knew what the child was going to be, unless the parents knew and informed everyone they were having a boy or girl.

I don't know where the girls get pink, and boy get blue started, but I grew up believing that was the thing. Then again, that was a loooooong time ago, and perspectives have changed somewhat over the years.

 

[Pendraia]

Pretty please...I would like some of those outfits but for Dawn also...as I would like to use them on Diva....poor dear doesn't have much in the way of clothes yet. Even making them for Luna I could get them on to Diva via a clone but that won't work for Poser users. I'm happy to provide the Diva morph to you if you're interested...pm me if you are!

 

[Karth]

Hi everyone
Thanks all for your posting. It help´s a lot.
Hope others will find the way too.
Thanks Salia for your very nice, informative, understanding and long answer

Honestly i have to say, that i prefer at the moment to do a product for Daz Studio.
I know and would wish i could always do it for both ..Poser and DS.
But ladies....that is not my way today.
There are a lot of reason that you would understand i think, why i have to do this.
100 technology and personell reasons at the Moment .
Not everything is written in Stone.
You can believe i spend a lot of hours to think about that in the last 2 years.

My very very personal "Hobby Artist" Reason :
I , the Artist - should have the freedom to choose what i want and love to create.
Otherwise my body and brain is under stress and all the imagination is in prison.
What do you think what you would get ?
Not the product that it should be .
Beside--- I never would tell someone what to render with my stuff ;-)

For today :
I will go through all the nice links and see what i can do.
I would like to do first, stuff for Luna.

My Kids never walk in pink or blue because of her gender*g*.
I tend to buy what i love to see on them and it should be a good Quality.
Ah.. i remember i bought some day a cool Jeans jacket in wash-out blue and with american stars and stripes.
The jacket had such a cool design that the 2 Girls and the Boy have to wear it when they have been 4 years old.
I think i have still that jacket in the house*g*
Should search..a 20 years old jacket...but still a eye-catcher
For babies i think all Pastells will be nice.

@Pendria
i´m not up to date with Posts in community.
Is that a freebie Morph for Dawn ?

Oh..it takes a bit Long to post this ..haha..
i´m off for breakfast.

I see you

 

[Pendraia]

It's a product I've been working on for the Hivewire store...my first product I might add. She begun in DS but I'm in the process of converting her to Poser. The morph is pretty much done in both programs except for repackaging it for the programs separately and I'm working on the texture.
My thread... Diva For Dawn | HiveWire 3D Community

A render I just did...I recently rediscovered a dress I made for genesis and I'm thinking about trying to convert it to Dawn and Diva. You can see it needs work around the arms and I'd probably need to do the piping around the arms as it separates with too much smoothing. Shaders one I did in 3delight.

 

[Karth]

Thanks for the link..she is really a Beauty !!
If i do someting for Dawn i would be more than happy to Support her too

 

[Karth]

I´m going through the links.
Very very nice ideas ! Thanks again

Ähmm..can it be that there is a cry for footwear ?
Maybe it´s a good idea to create some shoes as single products.
I could try to convert some.
I still have all the base files of all the shoes i ever created. Should not be a Problem
for most of them to overwork or convert.

 

[Pendraia]

Thanks...if you decide to do something for Dawn let me know and I'll send you a link for the DS version.

Shoes are definitely a good idea...especially kids shoes.

 

[Seliah (Childe of Fyre)]

Ähmm..can it be that there is a cry for footwear ?
Maybe it´s a good idea to

Hi Karth.

It's not just footwear. Although any shoes - especially baby shoes - would be greatly appreciated, my comments with the links above were more aimed towards suggesting that if someone were to model anything like this for Luna, it would be appreciated to have a full outfit, ie, shoes/boots and socks or tights/leggings where appropriate.

The reason I suggested footwear and leggings/tights to go with outfits is because right now we have so few of these items for all of our figures, but especially Luna.

I hope that makes sense.

I will be very grateful for anything you do choose to model, though. We need anything we can get right now for the HW figures!

 

[Seliah (Childe of Fyre)]

@Pendraia That dress is adorable on Diva. I can see what you mean about the arms, but it's really a cute dress!

 

[Pendraia]

@Pendraia That dress is adorable on Diva. I can see what you mean about the arms, but it's really a cute dress!

Thanks...it was just a quick test autofitting it to Dawn and then Diva. It actually needs a bit of work as I would need to redo the neck and arm trim as the aren't joined to the model it causes problems with smoothing and parts need rescaling for Diva but I'm going to work on it and the other clothes I've got that I can convert to her I just need more hours in the day...

Karth, I love the stuff you did for Star especially the long sleeve shirt...something like that would be great for Dawn or Luna. Thought of that last night after I logged off the computer...

 

[Rae134]

I'd love some English Riding Attire such as they ware for Dressage, Show Jumping and Cross Country (think Olympics). For Dawn & Dusk.
Dressage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , Riding Clothing available at Exclusively Equestrian or Riding Clothing available at Exclusively Equestrian

I would love to see a male version of something like this The Huntress for Dawn (DS) - A MEC4D and HiveWire 3D Creation for fantasy renders.

And more Dusk stuff in general.

 

[Alisa]

Karth, don't ever worry about your english. You do a great job with it and I at least can understand you just fine.

Ha! See, Karth - I've been telling you this for years

I
Ähmm..can it be that there is a cry for footwear ?
Maybe it´s a good idea to create some shoes as single products.
I could try to convert some.
I still have all the base files of all the shoes i ever created. Should not be a Problem
for most of them to overwork or convert.

Well you know my thoughts on this. I love all your stuff, you know that. But your footwear is super awesome - I particularly love the everyday ones you do (different types). They are so well made and the textures are gorgeous.