eclark1894
Visionary
Let me be clear... I'm NOT talking about a morph. I mean rigging a prop or figure in such a way as to have the zipper actually move up or down and close or open?
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Is it possible to make a zipper actually work in Poser?
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Yes, it is. Paul rigged Dusk's Bomber Jacket - A HiveWire 3D Creation by Christopher Creek Art, CGCubed, and Lisa's Botanicals to do just that. I think it was a series of morphs combined with rigging that made some sort of chain that allows realistic movement. I know it's possible but I don't know how it's done.
eclark1894
Visionary
Hmm, I wonder if I should even try it. Thank you, Lisa.
English Bob
Adventurous
Until I saw that bomber jacket, I'd have said "no - but you can fake it". I made these a long time ago using geometry switching:
Nancy Boots 3
There are five stages of zipped-ness controlled by a single dial on each boot. I made the alternate geometries using Poser 5's cloth room, although the resulting boots work in Poser 4.
Going by what it says on the product page, Dusk's jacket uses a series of morphs controlled by a master dial to achieve the same end. You're right to say that you don't want morphs as such, because they have to be either 0 or 1. The intermediate settings are no use. That was why I used geometry switching - I believed it was the best solution in the days of Poser 4.
Nowadays Poser's (and DAZ's) rigging systems allow you to switch between a series of morphs that are only ever zero or full on. I don't have the Dusk jacket, but I can imagine how it's done in broad terms; which is another way of saying that I don't feel qualified to instruct someone else how to do it.
I'm not up to speed on the latest rigging methods.
Nancy Boots 3
There are five stages of zipped-ness controlled by a single dial on each boot. I made the alternate geometries using Poser 5's cloth room, although the resulting boots work in Poser 4.
Going by what it says on the product page, Dusk's jacket uses a series of morphs controlled by a master dial to achieve the same end. You're right to say that you don't want morphs as such, because they have to be either 0 or 1. The intermediate settings are no use. That was why I used geometry switching - I believed it was the best solution in the days of Poser 4.
Nowadays Poser's (and DAZ's) rigging systems allow you to switch between a series of morphs that are only ever zero or full on. I don't have the Dusk jacket, but I can imagine how it's done in broad terms; which is another way of saying that I don't feel qualified to instruct someone else how to do it.
I'm not up to speed on the latest rigging methods.
English Bob
Adventurous
Indeed it does. Both the jacket and the skirt have 'working' zips.
Bike Gurl 42 for V4 - A Nerd3D Creation at HiveWire 3D
It seems to work in the same way we'd been discussing above: ERC controls and morphs. Poser's rigging was never conceived with this kind of thing in mind, but as you say, it is flexible enough to fake it.
I'd forgotten I had that outfit. I must have a play.
Bike Gurl 42 for V4 - A Nerd3D Creation at HiveWire 3D
It seems to work in the same way we'd been discussing above: ERC controls and morphs. Poser's rigging was never conceived with this kind of thing in mind, but as you say, it is flexible enough to fake it.
I'd forgotten I had that outfit. I must have a play.
And just FYI the zippers on the Bike Gurl Stuff uses several steps of cascading morphs. That stuff was all done using conventional (deltaAddDelta) type dependencies. THe more modern opKey type dependency would make this about 10 million times easier to create. The Bike Gurl stuff has ... um I think it's 4 or 5 "steps" in the zipper. They are close enough together to fake it. The zipper pull uses some voodoo and sacrificed pixels to _not_ swap the geometry. There's actually a different set of polys pull for each stage of the zip. They trade places to appear and disappear as the zipper moves up. Stupid tricks in Poser 101