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Dawn 2.0 ?
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Hi, Dove -
There's no much to tell you at this point, but Chris will start a thread when he's ready to do so. He's already mentioned this "We'll be cutting up the mesh and optimizing her. We will preserve a Dawn SE shape but present a new shape from top to bottom with Dawn 2.0" in the Moose and Squirrel thread in answer to a question.
She's going to be awesome, of course !
There's no much to tell you at this point, but Chris will start a thread when he's ready to do so. He's already mentioned this "We'll be cutting up the mesh and optimizing her. We will preserve a Dawn SE shape but present a new shape from top to bottom with Dawn 2.0" in the Moose and Squirrel thread in answer to a question.
She's going to be awesome, of course !
Um.... I don't understand the technology....but my reaction is 'why? Dawn SR2/SE is hands down better than any female model on the market, and to be honest, if I have to buy a whole new Dawn, why would I? Just curious and confused. (and still waiting anxiously for the Deer FAMILY...) no offense intended.... !
Dawn is a lot of folks favorite female 3D character, but she has been around for a while, and the newer versions of Poser and DS have newer technology, so why not take advantage of it. At least that's how I see it, but Chris would be the only one who could confirm that hypothesis.
Lyne, love your view based on your experience with Dawn. We feel she is of a superior quality as well. But many don't see our point of view. Dawn has been frowned upon by many, even those overseeing the software we use (which is bizarre seeing the life we've been able to bring to it), and a good portion didnt give her a go, based on the strong opinions of others. We want to strive to at least diminish the barriers some still have.
We will create a version 2 with improved mesh, rig, another UV set which will be an improvement. She'll have separate finger nails, toenails, and a tear tube at bottom edge of eyelid. A pure quad mesh with improved topology, and a base shape that is slimmer than Dawn with a gorgeous default body and face. The mesh will still be dense enough to create adequate morph shapes without needing normal or bump maps, although those will greatly enhance and improve realism.
We will still have a Dawn SE shape for those that love her as is, and we still very much welcome support for her.
We will create a version 2 with improved mesh, rig, another UV set which will be an improvement. She'll have separate finger nails, toenails, and a tear tube at bottom edge of eyelid. A pure quad mesh with improved topology, and a base shape that is slimmer than Dawn with a gorgeous default body and face. The mesh will still be dense enough to create adequate morph shapes without needing normal or bump maps, although those will greatly enhance and improve realism.
We will still have a Dawn SE shape for those that love her as is, and we still very much welcome support for her.
carmen indorato
Extraordinary
Any hope of offering realistic gen crease and foot morphs in the default figure or add-ons for extra support paks?
I like her looks Chris and though i have not used her....YET.....since I do mostly erotic fantasy art and SciFi imaging
those particular body parts play an important role in my work. Not having any way of getting those features onto her and not wanting to reinvest another small fortune in her I have avoided her. Please keep in mind I do NOT DO EXPLICIT porn stuff but tasteful erotic and pinup like art but I try to get my figures in my scenes to look as realistic as possible.
The feet morphs I would love in default is basic toe and front of foot spread to look more natural when placing the figure barefoot. The ball of the foot spreads as do the toes and a few simple side to side up and down toe movement morphs would keep me grinning (yeah me gots a footsie fetish!). The first figure that offered that was V1/V2 with the Barbarian Foot morphs and it sucked no other versions of her included that feature without praying for add-on paks for them.
Also like all other poser figures that keep getting "improved" this means all support for her everyone has invested in will ave to be considered obsolete with version 2.0.....right!?
I like her looks Chris and though i have not used her....YET.....since I do mostly erotic fantasy art and SciFi imaging
those particular body parts play an important role in my work. Not having any way of getting those features onto her and not wanting to reinvest another small fortune in her I have avoided her. Please keep in mind I do NOT DO EXPLICIT porn stuff but tasteful erotic and pinup like art but I try to get my figures in my scenes to look as realistic as possible.
The feet morphs I would love in default is basic toe and front of foot spread to look more natural when placing the figure barefoot. The ball of the foot spreads as do the toes and a few simple side to side up and down toe movement morphs would keep me grinning (yeah me gots a footsie fetish!). The first figure that offered that was V1/V2 with the Barbarian Foot morphs and it sucked no other versions of her included that feature without praying for add-on paks for them.
Also like all other poser figures that keep getting "improved" this means all support for her everyone has invested in will ave to be considered obsolete with version 2.0.....right!?
We'll load her up with what makes sense. I would suspect she'll have much more than what she had as version 1. But I also can see us having a few upsell packs. That's typical. Probably presented as Value Stacks.
She will be feature rich though, no doubt.
I can make a Genital crease just for you. We can name it after you too if you like.
Her toes are rigged. And yes she can cross her toes too. She has some foot morphs as well. Not sure what else you'd be looking for specifically.
Yes, the Carmen. Perfect. Ha.
Carmen, Dawn already has Side to Side, Up and Down Toe movements (under Transforms/Rotation), as well as Twist.
Feet:
The HiveWire Dog/Cats have the Foot Pad Pressure morphs, which flatten and spread the toes and paw. A Foot Pressure morph for Dawn 2.0 to flatten and spread the foot and toes (heel, ball of the foot, and toes) would be useful as Carmen suggested.
I'd also like to see additional morphs for the Feet and Hands:
Feet:
- Existing Feet morphs are AnkleThin (a Legs Morph, which works in negative), Feet Length, Foot Arch, Foot Thickness, ToesLength, and ToesThickness.
- Control morphs are (Left and Right each) Foot Scale, Toes Curl, and Toes Spread.
- The Left and Right Toes are able to Bend, Twist, and move Side to Side. Each Toe (Big Toe, Index Toe, Middle Toe, Ring Toe, and Pinky Toe) are additionally able to Bend, Twist, and move Side to Side.
- Existing Hand morphs are Wrist Thin, FingerThickness, FingersLength, HandThickness, HandsLength, and NailLengthCurve and NailLengthSquare.
- Control morphs are (Left and Right each) Fingers Crossed, Fingers Fist, Fingers Grasp, Fist, Grasp, Hand Scale, Hand Spread, Hand Straighten, Thumb Bend, Thumb Fist, and Thumb Grasp.
The HiveWire Dog/Cats have the Foot Pad Pressure morphs, which flatten and spread the toes and paw. A Foot Pressure morph for Dawn 2.0 to flatten and spread the foot and toes (heel, ball of the foot, and toes) would be useful as Carmen suggested.
I'd also like to see additional morphs for the Feet and Hands:
- Foot Narrow, ToesNarrow (Negative values of both don't seem to do anything), as well as an Ankle Bone Protrude
- Wrist Bone Protrude.
You can add your comments and questions here now:
Dawn 2.0 Underway
I believe I did add in one morph for the foot pressure. That being the base has the pressure, and another morph was created to show no pressure on the underside of foot.
Satira, I like the suggestion of Ankle Bone Protrude and Wrist Bone Protrude. Infact that serves as a reminder that I wanted to enlarge the prominence on her Ulna for the styloid process.
Dawn 2.0 Underway
I believe I did add in one morph for the foot pressure. That being the base has the pressure, and another morph was created to show no pressure on the underside of foot.
Satira, I like the suggestion of Ankle Bone Protrude and Wrist Bone Protrude. Infact that serves as a reminder that I wanted to enlarge the prominence on her Ulna for the styloid process.
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