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Blender-Poser Interchange
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Electro-harpist
Admirable
Poser uses Blender's Cycles engine now, as a renderer. Indeed, the new Poser 14 has the latest version of Cycles (in Poser it's rebranded as 'SuperFly'). What would be the advantage of using Blender?
Blender's render is more advanced and supports Micro-Poly displacement, and has for years now. Poser is not only not getting new features, it is losing features. One of the main reasons I supported Poser Pro was for the ability to host renders in other software and for the Queue manager. Poser Pro is gone, hosting apps are gone, and Queue Manager has been greatly restricted since P13.
As More users have been moving content back and forth with Blender, I think it would be fantastic to have a toolset to host or import scenes from Poser into Blender to take advantage of Blenders tools and features.
As More users have been moving content back and forth with Blender, I think it would be fantastic to have a toolset to host or import scenes from Poser into Blender to take advantage of Blenders tools and features.
Electro-harpist
Admirable
As I understand it, Blender is only more advanced than Poser in terms of its 'experimental' Cycles features. Not in the stable version of Cycles. It's naturally beyond the reach of the Poser devs to start chasing and supporting 'experimental' features.
The old Poser Pro is only partly gone, as most of the old Pro features are now in the default purchase. Making Poser great value, compared to the previous pricing arrangements.
The old Pro export modules are gone, true. But E-on Vue is now wholly free and can very easily import a Poser scene (if you also have Poser 11 installed, for its Vue-import SDK). From there you have E-on's Vue's huge range of robust and easy export options to quite recent versions of Maya / C4D / Blender etc. E-on really ramped up the export options in its final versions of Vue.
Not sure what you mean by "hosting apps". Python scripts, perhaps? Almost all the old scripts have been either fixed up or replaced one way or another with Python 3 versions that support P12 or higher. The only ones I'm aware we're still missing are: Scene Toy; Rust-icator (very easily grunge up a surface while keeping original textures visible); the Poser to Clip Studio export script; and inevitably the DSON Genesis 1 & 2 importer. These all still run in Poser 11 though, and multiple Poser versions can run side-by-side. We also have some great new Python 3 scripts from Ken, albeit paid, such as Openpose for interfacing Poser with AI.
The old Poser Pro is only partly gone, as most of the old Pro features are now in the default purchase. Making Poser great value, compared to the previous pricing arrangements.
The old Pro export modules are gone, true. But E-on Vue is now wholly free and can very easily import a Poser scene (if you also have Poser 11 installed, for its Vue-import SDK). From there you have E-on's Vue's huge range of robust and easy export options to quite recent versions of Maya / C4D / Blender etc. E-on really ramped up the export options in its final versions of Vue.
Not sure what you mean by "hosting apps". Python scripts, perhaps? Almost all the old scripts have been either fixed up or replaced one way or another with Python 3 versions that support P12 or higher. The only ones I'm aware we're still missing are: Scene Toy; Rust-icator (very easily grunge up a surface while keeping original textures visible); the Poser to Clip Studio export script; and inevitably the DSON Genesis 1 & 2 importer. These all still run in Poser 11 though, and multiple Poser versions can run side-by-side. We also have some great new Python 3 scripts from Ken, albeit paid, such as Openpose for interfacing Poser with AI.
I dropped Vue years ago for reasons, and Vue is not as feature rich as Blender, especially for content editing and creation.
Micropoly Displacement in Blender is not an "Experimental Feature"
The most significant aspects of Poser Pro of interest to me are either gone or crippled - namely all of the Poser Fusion hosting Apps being gone, and the queue manager being reduced in functionality significantly.
The Poser devs are not implementing new features, and there are features many Poser User such as myself have waited for since Poser 7.
Other 3D software has continued to advance and add features while Poser has not, and it seems clear wont. I base this on having used Poser sinve version 4, having supported the Pro branch until it was axed, having been a beta tester on 2012, 2014, and 11, having been an ambassador, and recent discussions and comments from current Devs and admin of Bondware both in open forums and behind the scenes.
I was not originally going to get into all of this - but apparently not allowed to even mention wanting third party support for a free 3D package that is more feature robust than many paid programs and one which I have scene various Poser content creators discuss using. In fact, I figured discussing this was a good idea as 1) there are Poser creators using blender in their content creation workflow 2) Blender is open source and can be developed for either as free or paid plugins, and 3) Having such tools would help both content creators and general users by providing an easier interchange between software - especially given Poser FBX import/export is problematic at best.
I reall hate blocking people, but sick of posts like the previous one.
Micropoly Displacement in Blender is not an "Experimental Feature"
The most significant aspects of Poser Pro of interest to me are either gone or crippled - namely all of the Poser Fusion hosting Apps being gone, and the queue manager being reduced in functionality significantly.
The Poser devs are not implementing new features, and there are features many Poser User such as myself have waited for since Poser 7.
Other 3D software has continued to advance and add features while Poser has not, and it seems clear wont. I base this on having used Poser sinve version 4, having supported the Pro branch until it was axed, having been a beta tester on 2012, 2014, and 11, having been an ambassador, and recent discussions and comments from current Devs and admin of Bondware both in open forums and behind the scenes.
I was not originally going to get into all of this - but apparently not allowed to even mention wanting third party support for a free 3D package that is more feature robust than many paid programs and one which I have scene various Poser content creators discuss using. In fact, I figured discussing this was a good idea as 1) there are Poser creators using blender in their content creation workflow 2) Blender is open source and can be developed for either as free or paid plugins, and 3) Having such tools would help both content creators and general users by providing an easier interchange between software - especially given Poser FBX import/export is problematic at best.
I reall hate blocking people, but sick of posts like the previous one.