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@mininessie@Me195 Like so many of my renders this one started with me just playing around. I am constantly trying out new lighting, new textures and new POV's I know very well that if I could force myself to complete projects I would have several books written and illustrated and maybe even some short films but I am not in control and I have learned that when I try to force myself, it all just comes apart on me.... Thanks for your comments and thanks all for taking the time out to look over or liking my work.... Feel a little guilty though, here you all come to see my work and it is not work at all, just me playing around....lol