Terre
Renowned
We put Red on Taste of the Wild. Not only is my husband healthier for the cat not having grains in his diet, Red seems a little better for it to. He id up to the weight range the vet said he should be.
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The Anchorage, Part 3
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What they eat can affect their body chemistry, which can in turn affect a person's allergy. 
Terre, it's really good that you all found a solution.
I'm off to grab my coffee now... silly pot seems like it's taking forever to brew this morning. LOL
Terre, it's really good that you all found a solution.
I'm off to grab my coffee now... silly pot seems like it's taking forever to brew this morning. LOL
Desertsilver
Busy Bee
I've seen quite a few articles agreeing with Seliah on the allergy/ food connection. It's good to remember that cats are obligate carnivores- grain does not belong in their diet. Most holistic vets also say cats have almost no thirst drive- they are meant to get their water from prey- and by the time they drink water, they are already dehydrated. Most good vets say never feed dry. If $$ are an issue, cheaper canned is still better than dry. And it's easy to up the protein- buy whatever meat is on sale and make a topper for your canned food.
Thanks to the internet- there is a wealth of info on good nutrition for your cat- just remember, most vet's are not up on nutrition.
And most cats will safely and easily lose excess weight on a high protein diet- ( and you have to be careful, cats can quickly go into liver failure if they stop eating- so transition slowly)they stop stuffing themselves with the 'meat flavored cereral' that's in most dry food bags.
Off soap box now, sorry, seen to many cats in rescue with issues from eating a terrible diet.
Thanks to the internet- there is a wealth of info on good nutrition for your cat- just remember, most vet's are not up on nutrition.
And most cats will safely and easily lose excess weight on a high protein diet- ( and you have to be careful, cats can quickly go into liver failure if they stop eating- so transition slowly)they stop stuffing themselves with the 'meat flavored cereral' that's in most dry food bags.
Off soap box now, sorry, seen to many cats in rescue with issues from eating a terrible diet.
Yeah, I vastly prefer to feed our cats moist. Can't really afford to go completely no-grains on our kitties, but we do try to mix in the moist foods for them.
We have one aging cat though, which can't really handle the moist food anymore. He hooverizes it, and then horks it right back up and immediately goes looking for more. Vet told us very specifically to just mix the moist in with dry food for him. This at least makes him eat a little slower and he usually keeps it down that way. He has always been this way (scarfing food down in a hurry), but the last year or so it's gotten pretty bad. He will only chew if you stand next to him and click your teeth together. But he's also 14 years old, too... so we just kind of try to work with him as much as we can.
The female is our mouser... during the winter months she pretty much feeds herself. We get a fair number of field mice that try to come in; one here, one there, like that... she hunts them down and eats them. Seriously, she does not leave anything behind to clean up. We can always tell when she's got a belly full of mouse just by whether or not she will eat out of her food dish. If she's ignoring her food and it's winter, it's because she's been filling up on mice.
It's funny to watch her trying to teach the other cat how to hunt mice, though... our old man was born indoors and has lived as an indoor kitty his whole life. I have seen him quite literally sit there, watch a mouse run right in front of him, and he looks up at us like "So? What am I supposed to do with that?"
Daisy, however... just spotted a meal and goes after the mouse. The last one she caught she plopped it in front of him (still alive) and spent quite a few minutes batting it at him. When she finally decided he didn't have any interest in it, she scooped it up again and walked off in a huff to go eat. LOL
We don't have a TON of mice, but we do get one or two on a fairly regular basis during the winter. So she earns her keep by mousing and fills her belly with any that don't get warning sign of a cat being in the house.
We have one aging cat though, which can't really handle the moist food anymore. He hooverizes it, and then horks it right back up and immediately goes looking for more. Vet told us very specifically to just mix the moist in with dry food for him. This at least makes him eat a little slower and he usually keeps it down that way. He has always been this way (scarfing food down in a hurry), but the last year or so it's gotten pretty bad. He will only chew if you stand next to him and click your teeth together. But he's also 14 years old, too... so we just kind of try to work with him as much as we can.
The female is our mouser... during the winter months she pretty much feeds herself. We get a fair number of field mice that try to come in; one here, one there, like that... she hunts them down and eats them. Seriously, she does not leave anything behind to clean up. We can always tell when she's got a belly full of mouse just by whether or not she will eat out of her food dish. If she's ignoring her food and it's winter, it's because she's been filling up on mice.
It's funny to watch her trying to teach the other cat how to hunt mice, though... our old man was born indoors and has lived as an indoor kitty his whole life. I have seen him quite literally sit there, watch a mouse run right in front of him, and he looks up at us like "So? What am I supposed to do with that?"
Daisy, however... just spotted a meal and goes after the mouse. The last one she caught she plopped it in front of him (still alive) and spent quite a few minutes batting it at him. When she finally decided he didn't have any interest in it, she scooped it up again and walked off in a huff to go eat. LOL
We don't have a TON of mice, but we do get one or two on a fairly regular basis during the winter. So she earns her keep by mousing and fills her belly with any that don't get warning sign of a cat being in the house.
Desertsilver
Busy Bee
Mouse is probably the best diet ever-- and handy for you too! So funny about your hunter trying to school the old guy---it's so yummy-- just try it!
My daughter's kitty is 16- he also started the scarf/barf cycle. We give him a 1/2 Teaspoon of canned pumpkin mixed in his wet food, plus water so it's rather a milkshake thickness. And he gets 3 small meals per day- mid day being pure chicken or beef- seems to be working.
My daughter's kitty is 16- he also started the scarf/barf cycle. We give him a 1/2 Teaspoon of canned pumpkin mixed in his wet food, plus water so it's rather a milkshake thickness. And he gets 3 small meals per day- mid day being pure chicken or beef- seems to be working.
Terre
Renowned
Yup. In this case there are some proteins that different cats make different amounts of. When a cat has grains is it's diet the amount goes up. Jim wasn't allergic to Cat even though he was on Purina his whole life. He's been allergic to Red since he was little. It just took a long time to figure out what was happening.What they eat can affect their body chemistry, which can in turn affect a person's allergy.
Terre, it's really good that you all found a solution.
I'm off to grab my coffee now... silly pot seems like it's taking forever to brew this morning. LOL
Terre
Renowned
We tried to get Red off of dry food but because he was two years old by the time we figured out what was happening it was too late. He wants his crunchies. If we get another cat after him we'll start with a kitten again and introduce it to gran free canned food at the start. If it was weaned on dry we'll make a slow changeover.
Terre
Renowned
Good after-morning.Hi Miss B, hi Terre! Don't want to miss anyone out
Terre
Renowned
Hi Miss B. I'm a bit late today too. Got a call from Jim a couple of hours ago asking when I'd be home. First time that's happened in quite a few months!
Oh, just realized I hadn't been clear as far as Red's health goes. He didn't LOSE weight, he gained it. He's been vacillating from 11.5 to 12.5 lbs all his adult life which the vet said was under weight but not dangerously so. He was 13 lbs 9 oz when he got his shots last year. This puts him firmly in the 13-15 lb range the vet says is healthy for him. Yes, he's a Maine Coon. Pure bred but we don't have his papers as he was sold at a pet price and the breeder wanted a "certificate of neutering" to send them to us. The best our vet had is the receipt for the surgery and it doesn't specify which operation the animal has had.
I'm a bit late today too. Got a call from Jim a couple of hours ago asking when I'd be home. First time that's happened in quite a few months!Oh, just realized I hadn't been clear as far as Red's health goes. He didn't LOSE weight, he gained it. He's been vacillating from 11.5 to 12.5 lbs all his adult life which the vet said was under weight but not dangerously so. He was 13 lbs 9 oz when he got his shots last year. This puts him firmly in the 13-15 lb range the vet says is healthy for him. Yes, he's a Maine Coon. Pure bred but we don't have his papers as he was sold at a pet price and the breeder wanted a "certificate of neutering" to send them to us. The best our vet had is the receipt for the surgery and it doesn't specify which operation the animal has had.
Oh I looooove Maine Coons. Until a friend of mine had hip surgery, and can no longer spend long periods of time at the computer, she designed websites for 2 or 3 breeders, and I used to love going through the sites to see all the beautiful cats. I love the long hair, and that fluffy tail. Talk about a snuggable pet!