I just Learned that Poser Licenses may not be redistrubuted

[Miss B]

This may seem like a strange question to you folks, but since I can no long use my Poser 9 for beta testing various CA products because the Library is no longer visible/functional, I'm looking for a copy of Poser 10 (or possibly PoserPro 2014) that's never been used.

I've looked on eBay, but the only copies available for Poser 10 have been previously owned, and I'm always wary of software that's been previously used, especially by someone I don't personally know, so if anyone happens to have an unused copy lying around, please feel free to PM me.

 

[Alisa]

Before you do this...you might want to check with Smith Micro to be sure that their licenses are transferrable. Unused doesn't automatically mean it's ok to use

 

[Miss B]

Before you do this...you might want to check with Smith Micro to be sure that their licenses are transferrable. Unused doesn't automatically mean it's ok to use

Good point Alisa, I hadn't thought about that. Will do.

Edited to Add: Email sent to SM to ask about transferring their software licenses, so we'll see what they have to say. Thanks again Alisa, as I hadn't thought about it.

 

[seachnasaigh]

When you get a reply, it would be good to post so that everyone knows whether it's feasible.

 

[Miss B]

Oh absolutely Seach. Definitely something for everyone to be aware of.

 

[Miss B]

OK, I just received a response from SM's support staff, and to quote:

"Thank you for contacting Support. The EULA prohibits the redistribution of the License or the files provided."

I guess that answers that question, but I'll leave this post here so others who ever have a question about it, will know exactly what SM's thoughts are on the subject.

 

[Miss B]

OK, I changed the title of this thread, and have moved it to the Poser forum, which is probably where it would do the most good.

 

[Bonnie2001]

That's good to know Miss B. thanks.

 

[Miss B]

You're welcome Bonnie, and yes it's an important fact folks should know.

 

[Willowisp]

Actually, that depends on where you live. In Europe, you are allowed to transfer your license of software, regardless what the EULA says. Local laws always trumps.

 

[Hornet3d]

Actually, that depends on where you live. In Europe, you are allowed to transfer your license of software, regardless what the EULA says. Local laws always trumps.

Nice to know we get somethings right in Europe.

EU court rules resale of used software licenses is legal -- even online

 

[Miss B]

I wish that were true here in the US Willow, but obviously not.

 

[eclark1894]

What's wrong with the P9 copy you already have?

 

[Satira Capriccio]

P9 uses Flash for the library which is no longer reliable. Consequently, the library is no longer visible or functional. No library = Dead Poser

I can no long use my Poser 9 for beta testing various CA products because the Library is no longer visible/functional

 

[sapat]

That is strange. Several yr ago a friend of mine won a copy of PP2014 which she already had and knew I couldn't afford. She asked them if she could give it to me. It was a download, not a boxed product. They said yes, and gave me access to the download links at their website. So something must have changed.

 

[carmen indorato]

OK, I just received a response from SM's support staff, and to quote:

"Thank you for contacting Support. The EULA prohibits the redistribution of the License or the files provided."

I guess that answers that question, but I'll leave this post here so others who ever have a question about it, will know exactly what SM's thoughts are on the subject.

Might it not just be cheaper getting an upgrade deal for the version you already have? I have been upgrading all my Poser versions like they since poser 4. One of my upgrades was about $45 US. Not bad for a full working version of the app. At least you'll know it is legal and clean AND ALL YOURS!

 

[Willowisp]

Hang on.. If Flash is the problem, you should be able to set the library to 'external' instead, which will use Air instead of Flash. Or maybe that is only the Pro version? My PP2012 still works fine, an I don't have Flash installed.

 

[Semicharm]

I still use P9 occasionally in Windows 10 without much trouble. There was an update that fixed the library problem. When I updated to Windows 10, I did a clean install and had to install P9 from scratch. Did the main install and imminently installed the update before running it. Everything worked fine. It still crashes on occasion, but it's P9 after all.

Hang on.. If Flash is the problem, you should be able to set the library to 'external' instead, which will use Air instead of Flash. Or maybe that is only the Pro version? My PP2012 still works fine, an I don't have Flash installed.

That's a pro feature. I don't recall how P10 dealt with the library issue but P11 uses an embedded version of Chrome. It's a kludge, but it gets around the problem with using external apps such as Flash or Air. Never understood why they went to Flash in the first place, as it broke support for thumbs in older products. They couldn't even be bothered to convert them to PNG.

 

[Miss B]

Hang on.. If Flash is the problem, you should be able to set the library to 'external' instead, which will use Air instead of Flash. Or maybe that is only the Pro version? My PP2012 still works fine, an I don't have Flash installed.

I think that may only be for PP2012. I am OK though, as Shelly reminded me about ShaderWorks Library Manager 2, which I had purchased back on RDNA years ago, but never used. Now I'm using it, and it's working fine.

At some point, however, I'm going to have to retire P9, but until I do, I am able to access my Runtime with LM2.

 

[Willowisp]

Aaah, I see. I use Library Manager myself, so I never faff about with the default library anyway lol.