A modeling question for Chris...

[eclark1894]

I swear Chris, I'm trying, but I'm having trouble making seams and hems. I watched you model the outfit for Anime Dawn, so I tried to follow on this swimsuit I'm making, but it looks like crap. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Chris]

Yeah this is looking good. I just add in more rows of geometry to retain the edges better when it's smoothed.

So this is a good start. Just bevel the segment rows to show detail better. Does that make sense?

I might need to show you a tighter image to see that I added in more segmented rows to retain the edges.

 

[Glitterati3D]

One thing I will add, that's not entirely obvious, Earl.........it's imperative that you smooth at least one more time after extruding your edgings or they will look pretty rough and boxy. A final smooth really helps to give them a finished look.

 

[Pendraia]

Just looking at your images Chris you indent an edge and insert more edges around it to maintain the shape with smoothing which is similar to what I do but your work looks way better.

Also noticed that you have below the waist and the breasts two areas where the edges are closer together is that to help maintain the shape of the outfit?

 

[Chris]

Just looking at your images Chris you indent an edge and insert more edges around it to maintain the shape with smoothing which is similar to what I do but your work looks way better.

Also noticed that you have below the waist and the breasts two areas where the edges are closer together is that to help maintain the shape of the outfit?

Those added edges are put in the mesh so that I can also create the alternative top and bottom piece and remove the center. Or I can morph in the center section and still leave a nice edge piece.

 

[Pendraia]

Cool...thanks for the info! That's a very neat trick to remember... a bit like using polygroups in Zbrush so you can hide things while morphing.

 

[eclark1894]

Those added edges are put in the mesh so that I can also create the alternative top and bottom piece and remove the center. Or I can morph in the center section and still leave a nice edge piece.

Yeah I thought about doing that, but don't think I'm ready to be that cute yet.

Still working on the seams.

 

[eclark1894]

Anybody recommend a good book or tutorial on topology?

 

[Pendraia]

I've got an e book which talks about topology I'll try and dig out the name of it for you.

 

[eclark1894]

Thanks, Pen. I got a couple of responses from Caisson and Teyon earlier today at the SM forum as well. I made a couple changes to the suit already because of it.

 

[Pendraia]

This is the one I have https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Modeling-William-Vaughan/dp/0321700899. It has a couple of sections on topology the book is on modelling generally I found it useful but you might already know whats in it.

 

[Miss B]

Oh, I think someone recommended that book on the SM Poser forum. I'll have to check that out.

 

[Pendraia]

It's a very good book for anyone who's interested in going into the industry as he also discusses how it works in the first couple of chapters. He's worked in the industry and also taught. I'm currently rereading it in Kindle and taking notes by highlighting it this time round.

 

[eclark1894]

It's getting closer to what I want.

 

[Miss B]

It's coming along very nicely Earl.