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Some doctors are a PITA!

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
Had my appointment with the Gastroenterologists today and it was a total waste!
My primary was not happy with my blood enzyme work so he had a liver scan done, it showed fluid around or in the liver.
So off to this idiot!
He looks over my records and then after just talking, no tests, said he thinks it is just because I'm old and overweight.
It is, so he thinks, fatty liver from overweight, pre-diabetes and high cholesterol.
But I've been on two cholesterol drugs and a strict diet and still the weight and cholesterol is high.

The severe pain like I'm having a gall bladdder attack and the pressure and cramping in my lower abdomen are not anything to worry about.
I need to stop my acid reflux meds as the cause bone loss, eat more fats and protein and not lose more than 15 lbs and not fall.

Okayyy, if I stop my meds I will chke on bile even while in a sitting position...sheesh!
So after telling my more times than I care to hear (about 4) that is is because I'm overweight, old and depressed, all he does is send me for blood work.

I can't take antidepressants as they all make me have worse seizures, I have to take Tylenol 3 to 4 times a day for some pain relief as I'm allergic to most prescription drugs.

So I'm looking into scraping together some cash and ordering CBD Oil from Amazon to see if it will really help any.

I can not go on this way with so much pain, too many allergies and no way to get relief.
And I detest idiots that really should have chosen a different profession other than medicine...sigh

At least I have my art and my family and friends and games to help cheer me up.
 

Miss B

Drawing Life 1 Pixel at a Time
CV-BEE
I'm sorry to hear you're having so many problems, and your Gastroenterologist doesn't sound like he believes you're in so much pain. Yes being older and overweight is not good for you, I know that all too well. Both my Internist and Cardiologist are always after me to lose weight, and the 15 lbs. he told you, that's not unusual. My Internist has always told me no more than 10lbs. a year, or at most 1lb. a month, so 15 lbs isn't really an unusual request.

Luckily I'm able to go to the gym regularly, so I'm on the move, as it were, and both of my Carotid arteries have some blockage, but luckily less than half. Yet my Cardiologist isn't happy about it, because he's heard of folks who have had strokes even with less than half blockage, but the fact I'm up and moving regularly, and on a Statin to control my cholesterol, satisfied him with this years stress test results.

Here's hoping you find a resolution, and things improve for you, sooner rather than later.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
I hope to get some relief and I will have to go to my primary when the results of this blood work is in.
I'm sure he will try to figure something out, I like him and he takes time to listen and work with his patients.

This one I went to today has told my son-in-law the reason for his reflux and high blood pressure is that he is old and fat, Told my grand-daughter (17 years old and only about 15 pounds overweight) that here stomach problems is because she is fat and depressed
She had been having sharp pains in the lower abdomen and under her rib cage and was vomiting.
Turned out it was that new flu that had been going around.

But it seems to be that being fat or old and fat or depressed is his favorite diagnosis.

I am going to request that if I need the same kind of specialist again my primary sends me to the other one at that medical place.
 

Bonnie2001

Extraordinary
He looks over my records and then after just talking, no tests, said he thinks it is just because I'm old and overweight.

That's not very nice of a Doctor to say, whether it's true or not!
About CBD oil, I say go for it. Our next door neighbors daughter has epilepsy and takes seizures almost every day, or used to. Her parents got CBD oil for her early this year and since then she has only had two or three seizures in almost six months. Also, old Tom the cowboy (we call him that because he wears a cowboy hat) a few doors down has back trouble and when he heard about the girl using CBD oil for her epilepsy, he got some and now his back is pain free.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
I've heard it does help.
There are so many people who don't seem to understand, you can not get high from it.
It is not the same as marijuana, it has been altered so it does not cause high or hallucinations.

But from what I've read it does help for RA, Fibro and other painful conditions.
It also helps depression and anxiety and stomach problems. without all the side affects or risks or other issues.
My reflux and cholesterol meds cause bone loss and or liver problems.
Tylenol can cause liver damage taken over long period.
When I first was prescribed Prednisone for my A and Fibro, I was told it would cause a weight gain and it did, from 158 to 180 lbs in three months.
I was not told it could cause strokes.
My primary that I have now was pleased when I weaned off because I had been having mini strokes and there was a greater risk of a major one.|
One would think that the government would do more to help legalize CBD oil in all states since it does not cause any of that and does help more people.
 

Satira Capriccio

Renowned
CV-BEE
Contributing Artist
Honestly, I'd hold off on the CBD Oil, especially, if you are not being supervised by a health care professional familiar with CBD Oil. While there are sufficient studies to show it is effective with epilepsy, there are not enough reliable studies to prove any other claims. Because the manufacture of CBD Oil is not regulated, products vary widely in quality. Consequently, there may be more or less marijuana extract than what is listed on the label. That same study conducted in 2017 found about 1 in 5 CBD products contained the intoxicating pot chemical THC. There is also some indication CBD might harm the liver.

Before buying and using it, find a health care provider who understands CBD. You need to be monitored by a health care provider familiar with CBD. With your health issues, don't risk "medicating" yourself based on what you've heard.

As for that Gastroenterologist? Shame on him! For sure complain to your primary care physician about him so he won't refer anyone else to that doctor. Some people really shouldn't be practicing medicine. Like the periodontist I went to a few years ago who argued with his receptionist/bookkeeper the entire time, as well as bitching about insurance companies. I'm assuming he was married to the receptionist/bookkeeper. At least, I hope so! No employee should be treated the way he treated her. For that matter, neither should a wife.

Needless to say, I didn't schedule my work with him.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
Oh, this one was rude fr sure but nothing compared to the obstetrician I had when pregnant with my son.
He either ignored me when I complained about a pain in my groin area and extreme vomiting or just said I was exaggerating, being a big baby and I needed to grow up.
I was 30 years old and knew what was going on was not normal.
But when I tried to change doctors no one would take me because I was already too far along.
I fired the doctor the night I went in to have my son because he was so hateful and rude, threatened to slap me if I screamed one more time form the pain.
He said I was just acting out, he had given my a saddle block, as he called it, and there should be no pain.
I was so mad I sat up and told him very quietly that he should remember before he did, I might be pregnant then but I would soon have that baby and I'd make sure he paid for it.
Him and the nurse had shocked looks on their faces and he turned and rushed out as I told him he was fired.
The nurse came over to soothe me and was fiddling with my writs, I looked and saw something dangling from them.
It was then I learned that the doctor had her restrain me because I was in such hard labor and I had broken those leather restraints in anger.

They still refused to send in a new doctor so he did deliver my son, I wound up having to have 6 units of blood afterwards due to hemorrhage.

It's one reason I try to make sure my doctors are worth trusting.
This one is not and I do not like him at all.

I suppose according to his way of thinking most of my grandkids were born old and fat, they all had acid reflux since birth...lol.
 

Pendraia

Sage
Contributing Artist
Sorry to hear this Faery Light...I'm going through my own woes with doctors at the moment due to high blood pressure. It's not fun dealing with the medical profession.
 

Bonnie2001

Extraordinary
There are so many people who don't seem to understand, you can not get high from it.
It is not the same as marijuana, it has been altered so it does not cause high or hallucinations..

The THC is removed from it, as THC is what gives the high. I've read up on it in school and apparently nobody ever died from smoking marijuana anyway, but governments just scaremonger us into believing otherwise. Personally I think they should ban alcohol instead because over here most anti-social problems are caused by it. At weekends, the emergency rooms are full of people who are there because of alcohol related incidents or health issues. People smoking marijuana are always in good mood and happy.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
The THC is removed from it, as THC is what gives the high. I've read up on it in school and apparently nobody ever died from smoking marijuana anyway, but governments just scaremonger us into believing otherwise. Personally I think they should ban alcohol instead because over here most anti-social problems are caused by it. At weekends, the emergency rooms are full of people who are there because of alcohol related incidents or health issues. People smoking marijuana are always in good mood and happy.

Well I wouldn't argue about the emergency rooms at the weekends and I do think that we should reduce it somehow or the drinks industry should pay more to support the National Health Service. I am not so sure on the marijuana though, yes users can be in a good mood and happy but in my years of support I came across long term users who suffered from paranoia, and I do mean suffered. I do think that further studies need to be done on medical grounds but not introduced and a way that means legalisation through the backdoor. That said, I am no expert on the subject and, as someone who has never taken drugs, other than those prescribed by the doctor I have no other insight other than those users I have met first hand. It may even depend on the individual as much as the drug, I know for instance that codeine can be addictive for some but not everyone who needs to use the drug becomes addicted it depends very much on how the codeine is broken down in the body.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
Had my appointment with the Gastroenterologists today and it was a total waste!
My primary was not happy with my blood enzyme work so he had a liver scan done, it showed fluid around or in the liver.
So off to this idiot!
He looks over my records and then after just talking, no tests, said he thinks it is just because I'm old and overweight.
It is, so he thinks, fatty liver from overweight, pre-diabetes and high cholesterol.
But I've been on two cholesterol drugs and a strict diet and still the weight and cholesterol is high.

The severe pain like I'm having a gall bladdder attack and the pressure and cramping in my lower abdomen are not anything to worry about.
I need to stop my acid reflux meds as the cause bone loss, eat more fats and protein and not lose more than 15 lbs and not fall.

Okayyy, if I stop my meds I will chke on bile even while in a sitting position...sheesh!
So after telling my more times than I care to hear (about 4) that is is because I'm overweight, old and depressed, all he does is send me for blood work.

I can't take antidepressants as they all make me have worse seizures, I have to take Tylenol 3 to 4 times a day for some pain relief as I'm allergic to most prescription drugs.

So I'm looking into scraping together some cash and ordering CBD Oil from Amazon to see if it will really help any.

I can not go on this way with so much pain, too many allergies and no way to get relief.
And I detest idiots that really should have chosen a different profession other than medicine...sigh

At least I have my art and my family and friends and games to help cheer me up.


Sorry to hear you have had some many problems, not helped by your latest visit. Many years ago when my wife was still my girlfriend I went with her to the doctor as she had a swelling in her leg. He prescribed more exercise and if it began to hurt to take some paracetamol. I was not happy and managed to get her an appointment with my doctor (back in the days when you still could) who sent her straight to Accident and Emergency. Turns out that she had a blood clot that could have killed her. She never went back to her doctor thank god but I wonder what damage a doctor like that has done to his patients.

I was diagnosed with fatty liver last year, often a complication seen in diabetics, and went for a scan. The specialist was very supportive saying it was minor at that point in time. She also explained how the liver is the only organ that, given a chance, can repair itself. That encouragement had a far bigger impact on me than a lecture on me being too fat.

I do hope you manage to sort all of this without too much stress.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
The primary we have now has told both, me and my daughter, we would be better off with marijuana for our conditions.
Our doctor who recently retired said the same thing, but I told him I will not smoke anything.
As a former smoker I will not inhale stuff into my lungs like that, except oxygen of course.
But with this oil it can be used in Tea, coffee or in lotions or salves and it will not give a high.

Bonny, I agree on alcohol, there was and still is a lot of alcoholism running in my family.
I've seen too many of my own relatives whose lives were destroyed by it and that saddens me.
And the number of deaths it cause is terrible, and usually by drunk drivers.

But they tried to ban it in the 1920's here and it caused more problems than keeping it legal.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
The primary we have now has told both, me and my daughter, we would be better off with marijuana for our conditions.
Our doctor who recently retired said the same thing, but I told him I will not smoke anything.
As a former smoker I will not inhale stuff into my lungs like that, except oxygen of course.
But with this oil it can be used in Tea, coffee or in lotions or salves and it will not give a high.

Bonny, I agree on alcohol, there was and still is a lot of alcoholism running in my family.
I've seen too many of my own relatives whose lives were destroyed by it and that saddens me.
And the number of deaths it cause is terrible, and usually by drunk drivers.

But they tried to ban it in the 1920's here and it caused more problems than keeping it legal.

Whatever you decide to do as regard medication I hope it works for you with preferable no side effects.

I don't think alcohol can be banned and therefore I would not suggest that we should and like a lot of things, in itself it is not bad, it is the abuse that is the problem. Certainly in the UK we should be trying to change the culture where the main aim for many on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday night is to go out and get completely stoned out of one's mind.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
I had a cousin, male, who bragged one day that he had really had a blast the night before.
So I asked what he had done, he said he went out drinking with buddies and got really pasted.
The guy was so hung over and heaving like crazy, groaning with a headache and could not remember one thing he did except drink.
To my thinking it made no sense so I asked how he knew he had a good time if he was too drunk to remember.

His answer was that it must have been or he would not be so hung over from it.

How is heaving your insides out, blasting headache and you feel like dying fun?
My mind just does not understand that line of reasoning...lol.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
I had a cousin, male, who bragged one day that he had really had a blast the night before.
So I asked what he had done, he said he went out drinking with buddies and got really pasted.
The guy was so hung over and heaving like crazy, groaning with a headache and could not remember one thing he did except drink.
To my thinking it made no sense so I asked how he knew he had a good time if he was too drunk to remember.

His answer was that it must have been or he would not be so hung over from it.

How is heaving your insides out, blasting headache and you feel like dying fun?
My mind just does not understand that line of reasoning...lol.


I got that drunk once when I was in my late teens and decreed never again, like you I just cannot see the appeal. In my early twenties I virtually stopped drinking alcohol and since then the only alcoholic drink I have is sparkling white wine, one glass on my birthday and another on Christmas Day.
 

Janet

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
I'm a one beer drunk. I've always stated away from alcohol. Since moving here near my oldest son though I've had a few beers here and there as he's a connoisseur and has started brewing his own. Microbrews that are pretty tasty.

I agree with Bonnie, outlaw alcohol - strong alcohol - not beer - and legalize pot. It's actually legal where I live. It was kind of a shock moving here. Pot stores and billboards everywhere.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
I'm a one beer drunk. I've always stated away from alcohol. Since moving here near my oldest son though I've had a few beers here and there as he's a connoisseur and has started brewing his own. Microbrews that are pretty tasty.

I agree with Bonnie, outlaw alcohol - strong alcohol - not beer - and legalize pot. It's actually legal where I live. It was kind of a shock moving here. Pot stores and billboards everywhere.


Here in the UK two young ***** have just been jailed for murdering someone while stealing his iPhone. Thier defense 'bored, high after smoking cannabis and taking Xanax' the pair will now each spend more the twenty years in jail which means they have not only trashed their life but also that of at least three families. I am getting too old to understand the attraction of getting high but then, as I have already mentioned I don't get drunk either, losing control of my actions for whatever reasons does not appeal.
 

Bonnie2001

Extraordinary
I seen that on Sky news Hornet. They were criminal scumbags, pure and simple. They would have done similar crimes even if they hadn't been on pills and cannabis. Criminals often blame their actions on drink or/and drugs, they have to blame something to try get some leniency from the courts.
 

Faery_Light

Dances with Bees
Contributing Artist
I've seen how mixing drugs and alcohol can affect people.
People who were the meanest in nature were the whiskey drinkers, it just makes them meaner.
Most beer drinkers ended up just crying in their beer.
Those who used just cannabis were more mellow but if they added pills they got mean or stupid.

Those who end up hurting someone or killing someone would with or without drugs or alcohol.
They are already messed up mentally.

And I did do some drinking as a teen but not drugs.
I quit drinking in my late teens, beer just hurt my stomach too much,
Then soda caused too much pain so I quit drinking that in my twenties.
I've enjoyed a glass of wine or a margarita now and then recently but just really don't care for the effects it has on me.
Guess I'm a control freak...lol, just a glass of wine or any alcohol gets my head spinning and I hate it.
I hate anything that cause me to not be in control including the meds some doctors give out.
I need to be able to function or to cope and drugs that interfere with that are a no-no.

A look at America in the Roaring Twenties will show you what trying to ban all alcohol will do.
We just need to actually enact stricter laws on drinking and driving and really use those laws.
Unfortunately too many of our law makers are heavy drinkers and they drive under the influence.
 

Hornet3d

Wise
I seen that on Sky news Hornet. They were criminal scumbags, pure and simple. They would have done similar crimes even if they hadn't been on pills and cannabis. Criminals often blame their actions on drink or/and drugs, they have to blame something to try get some leniency from the courts.


You could well be right in this case and I have never regarded the often used excuse in rape cases that the guy was drunk as any sort of defence. I am a couple of generations away from those who are the target for legal or illegal highs so I am not going to condemn something I have little understanding of and I am a firm believer of anyone being free to do what they want as long as it does not have a negative effect on others. Where I do have a concern is the trend where driving under the influence of drugs is fast exceeding those caught driving under the influence of drink. For a number of years now it has become socially unacceptable to drink and drive in the UK and I really do not want this the be replaced by a similar danger.

In the end, just the ramblings of an old man so no one should be upset by my views.
 
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